"I can try the Wireshark thing but what difference is it going to make, i"
You will have PROOF that they are not offering you dns - and can call them on it. Just because your client or router is not showing you that it got them doesn't mean they are not handing them out. Your just assuming they are not until you look at what is actually in the dhcp offer.
You sure you can not set them in your internet settings -- yeah no **** your router should not be using what you setup in dhcp server for dns you hand to clients. Look in the internet settings, post the edit screen on here.
You forgot the simple option of just putting 3rd party firmware on your router, if supported - looking now that allows you to set the dns your router uses Scratch that -- doesn't look like the EA4500 would ever be supported by dd-wrt, which more than likely rules out other 3rd party options as well. Sorry you bought such a crappy router. Your other option is to return the crap that does not support 3rd party and buy something that does
Another option might be to go to standard firmware vs cloud crap
This is the options I get on the Internet Settings
None which apply to me other than Automatic Configuration right?
What is wrong with the EA4500 router, I have used DD-WRT in the past on routers and I just didn't want any of that, I just wanted a router, with nice WiFi speeds that I could setup and leave but this has been a complete nightmare and I don't blame Cisco but my ISP. It isn't Cisco or the Routers fault that my ISP "seems" to be not providing any type of DNS server.
DNS IS provided in modem mode, I'm using one - have you got the latest firmware for the EA4500? Have you tried contacting Cisco?
VM Won't help you because they don't support 3rd Party Routers.
I could plug my PC directly into the SuperHub on Modem Mode and just tell them I am plugged in directly and no DNS servers are being provided. and Yes I would of thought DNS servers would be provided in Modem Mode but from what I see I am not gettting any.
Yes I contacted Cisco too, but they couldn't figure out the issue either, other people use this same router and the SuperHub on Virgin Media and have no issues.