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[Enron]

DDStriker, on 10 October 2012 - 02:28, said:

Encrypt before uploading?

Or don't upload child porn.

[~Johnny]

FaiKee, on 10 October 2012 - 01:59, said:

According to another guy's post in the same PCBeta thread, it seems MS takes different measures to violations:

http://bbs.pcbeta.co...02&pid=30001133



My guess is :
- For child abuse or other serious violations, it's "Shoot first, ask questions later"
- Other not-so-serious stuffs, they give you a warning and a chance to remove the stuffs.

Interestingly that quote seems to suggest they only care about files that are in your public folder or are being shared, rather than your private storage, though by the sounds of it that's probably not entirely true.

[FaiKee]

~Johnny, on 10 October 2012 - 10:34, said:

Interestingly that quote seems to suggest they only care about files that are in your public folder or are being shared, rather than your private storage, though by the sounds of it that's probably not entirely true.

I guess it depends on the circumstances, because if you keep a copyright material to yourselves, it's alright, but you can't "share" it; but for child abuse it's different, I know that in Hong Kong(and in many places), just keeping the material in your own PC is already a criminal offence.

For images, MS do not actually "see" the image, they check on the "image DNA".

[AJerman]

Hahaha, why do people use Skydrive with all this continually happening? There are far better alternatives.

[HawkMan]

AJerman, on 10 October 2012 - 15:28, said:

Hahaha, why do people use Skydrive with all this continually happening? There are far better alternatives.

oh really. an why are they better? they do the same thing you know. just not as big news.

[AJerman]

HawkMan, on 10 October 2012 - 15:31, said:

oh really. an why are they better? they do the same thing you know. just not as big news.

Yeah, no, other services aren't nearly as restrictive about what you can upload on your private drive as MS is.

[HawkMan]

actually they are. some are in fact worse. read the actual EULA. and all the services have been reported of deleting content with nudity. this is ALL services. at least all reputable services and reputable countries. those in less reputable countries I probably wouldn't trust with my content anyway.

[AJerman]

HawkMan, on 10 October 2012 - 15:41, said:

actually they are. some are in fact worse. read the actual EULA. and all the services have been reported of deleting content with nudity. this is ALL services. at least all reputable services and reputable countries. those in less reputable countries I probably wouldn't trust with my content anyway.

Well, maybe they are and I've not dealt with it. It's not like I sign up for cloud accounts to store porn, but I haven't heard nearly as many issues from other services as with Skydrive. Perhaps, like you say, it's just not as big of news, but unless something is illegal I see no reason for any of these services to be snooping through your files and judging what you have uploaded. I guess that's why I don't really use cloud services for anything but to store some APKs and a few pics or wallpapers on here or there.

That said, I'm quite certain my camera uploads that I've tested out over times may have uploaded some files that could be considered questionable (hey... it happens, haha), and I've never had any issue with any other services. I'd remove said pics if asked for sure, I'd rather them not be uploaded, but I know Dropbox and Google Drive have never said anything. Skydrive continues to have people getting accounts shutdown for false positives. I suppose it's all the risk you take giving your data to someone else.

Edit: Reading the EULA of Dropbox it says no publishing or sharing materials that are pornographic, indecent, or racial, ethnic, or religious hatred, but says nothing about hosting them. They just don't want their service used as a place used to host that kind of stuff. I feel like that's the same stance many other services use. As long as you aren't linking people to files like that, they don't care if you save them privately. Never really tested it out though.

[DDStriker]

Enron, on 10 October 2012 - 02:31, said:

Or don't upload child porn.

That was an excessive jump =/ I'm sure they would do a lot more than ban someone if they uploaded child porn everyone should be encrypting their files before using this service anyway they shouldn't be inspecting your files and they shouldn't be liable for what you are storing so if you encrypt it then everyone is happy

[theyarecomingforyou]

HawkMan, on 10 October 2012 - 15:41, said:

actually they are. some are in fact worse. read the actual EULA. and all the services have been reported of deleting content with nudity. this is ALL services. at least all reputable services and reputable countries. those in less reputable countries I probably wouldn't trust with my content anyway.

Exactly. Imagine if Microsoft or Google decides to cooperate with the governments in countries like China by uploading anti-communist documents stored by users straight to them. Then take that further and imagine a situation where any pirated material is uploaded straight to the police or RIAA/MPAA. Without a blanket ban on snooping these services cannot be trusted.

[Dashel]

I say a good place to start is for everyone to publicly upload a copy of say Huck Finn, Mein Kampf, Catcher in the Rye etc along with other controversial or classic works (Michelangelo's Bacchus etc) to start exposing how ridiculous their COC is. That is a headline that normal news outlets can latch onto.

[rippleman]

3 months now and porn is still there and account still active.

[ArialBlue]

Does Microsoft still actively scan all your NOT shared files? With their state of the art patented "this is a penis" scanner?

And is anyone suing them for this yet?

The idea of needing to actively determine which files are appropriate is ridiculous.

hjf288, on 09 October 2012 - 18:58, said:

Who stores their porn on the cloud? Lmfao - Should've read the TOS before doing so

It is a password and account name protected water-proof wife-proof place to store your penis pleasing material.

rippleman, on 16 November 2012 - 15:54, said:

3 months now and porn is still there and account still active.

That's good. You did upload it full of porn right? All 25 GB? They may be using just a black list from copyright holders.

[Growled]

That's one of the disadvantages of using the cloud. Get a good USB Hard Drive and use that instead.

[Dashel]

Local storage is still antithetical to their strategy with Win8.