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[quote name='grayscale' timestamp='1349861765' post='595237447']
I don't have an idea with how Store updates work, but is it possible that somehow, an update is "scheduled" but not necessarily pushed through right away?
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That's exactly what happens, and it should improve in no time as they tweak the Store, it's a "non-issue".

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[quote name='AngelGraves13' timestamp='1349859237' post='595237421']
Well Windows Update just installed the cumulative update and now my App Store says I'm not connected to the internet. Also Windows Update no longer works.

I don't recommend anyone install the update just yet.

UPDATE:
"WindowsUpdate_8024A000 OR WindowsUpdate_dt000"
Ran the Troubleshooter and it resolved the problem. Seems a bunch of services didn't start when the computer restarted. What a mess!
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Yeah, something is really wrong with your system. There's something fundamentally wrong somewhere. I honestly recommend backing up, flatten it, and reinstall.

I've had none of these issues doing the same things you've described doing, so there's something installed or changed at some point that has screwed with the system.

You wouldn't by chance by using any of the fun bypass apps to avoid the start screen, add back the start button, or allow for customization would you?

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I'll get around to it eventually. Waiting on Creative's drivers.

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[quote name='AngelGraves13' timestamp='1349827510' post='595236899']
So, I bought Technet and have been using Windows 8 from a clean install for about a month now.

All of a sudden, I wasn't able to update or install some Apps.
I found a solution to the problem by using...



Now, it seems there is another problem. I'm looking at the Games App and it says "sorry this app can't be installed because your system doesn't meet the system requirements." It is installed though, and aren't the system requirements simply Windows 8? Luckily I had this in my "purchased apps" so I was able to install it from there without issue.

I'm beginning to think that Windows 8 is going to be a huge disaster when it comes to the App Store. It randomly stops working and tells you that you can't install apps. WTF was Microsoft thinking?

Also...I have 2 Updates to be installed...but where?

P.S. - The MAPS App is gone from the Store.
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windows 8 will go down in history as worst windows OS ever.

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[quote name='grayscale' timestamp='1349861765' post='595237447']
I updated around 10 hours ago and never really had any problems. Been running it the whole time. The 'invisible' update is nothing new. I had been experiencing that since RP. I also had that 2 updates on the Store with nothing showing up even if I manually look for updates until a Travel update comes up when I manually check just a while ago. 1 more left. I don't have an idea with how Store updates work, but is it possible that somehow, an update is "scheduled" but not necessarily pushed through right away?
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Exactly what happens to me and exactly how it works at least so far. An update may be shown up on the Store tile and within the Store App inidicating that there is an update but it is not yet available and you cant know for which app the update is.Maybe this will change with general availability but this is what happens so far so if you wait 1 day the update(s) will eventualy be available for installation.

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Well I've been too busy playing Dishonored to mess around with my system. Everything seems to be working again. Games in App Store still says I don't meet the requirements, though it's installed and working fine.

I'll do a clean format in the middle of November when Office 2013 hits Technet. Hopefully Creative will update their drivers by then, and that Diskeeper will be updated as well.

Only other thing I can think of that screwed something up is CCleaner. I'm just never going to use the registry cleaner again, though I do like to clean out old MUI references from time to time.

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I having huge issue with Apps. Some just shutdown or I can't even connect to the "Store" keeps telling me that my PC isn't connected to the internet. Mail, SkyDrive, Weather, and everything else that requires an internet connection have no issues. I ran the App diag and it found nothing. You should be allowed to adjust your APPS settings. How would I know what e-mail account the Store is trying to connect with. I have my gmail account for my XboxLive, Gaming For Windows, and I have a .hotmail account for my skydrive. I don't know which one is trying to connect.

MSCONFIG shows Windows 7 and Vista Ultimate which has never been installed on this computer under the O/S's and each time I reboot it "Selected Services" are ticked and this is after I choose "normal". I also delete Vista and that comes back saying it's found under my G drive. My G drive is empty.

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[quote name='Sinster' timestamp='1350278497' post='595247979']
How would I know what e-mail account the Store is trying to connect with. I have my gmail account for my XboxLive, Gaming For Windows, and I have a .hotmail account for my skydrive. I don't know which one is trying to connect.
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It uses the same email address you use to login to Windows...

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I noticed that you cannot update your metro apps without having Windows Firewall enabled.

What the hell does Windows Firewall have to do with software updates, I have no clue.
Why force users to use Windows Firewall, effectively barring other firewalls, I have no clue.

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[quote name='AngelGraves13' timestamp='1350024041' post='595241967']


Only other thing I can think of that screwed something up is CCleaner. I'm just never going to use the registry cleaner again, though I do like to clean out old MUI references from time to time.
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I fully agree with you there, a system cleaner for a yet to be released OS, where nobody really has any experience yet of the nuances and inner workings of, to safely tweak and optimize the OS....

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[quote name='rfirth' timestamp='1350280196' post='595247995']
It uses the same email address you use to login to Windows...
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I'm using local. I did try Microsoft account as well and got the same results.

I created another local account and that worked. That fixed the issue, but I don't like that fix. Everything is setup on this account. I just need to figure out what it holding back the "store" from connecting.

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[quote name='ArialBlue' timestamp='1350280845' post='595247999']
I noticed that you cannot update your metro apps without having Windows Firewall enabled.

What the hell does Windows Firewall have to do with software updates, I have no clue.
Why force users to use Windows Firewall, effectively barring other firewalls, I have no clue.
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I have no problems updating apps with the built-in firewall enabled :/

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[quote name='grayscale' timestamp='1350313896' post='595248643']

I have no problems updating apps with the built-in firewall enabled :/
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Re-read my post.

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[quote name='ArialBlue' timestamp='1350280845' post='595247999']
I noticed that you cannot update your metro apps without having Windows Firewall enabled.

What the hell does Windows Firewall have to do with software updates, I have no clue.
Why force users to use Windows Firewall, effectively barring other firewalls, I have no clue.
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Crap, maybe that's where my issues lie? I turned off the firewall a few days ago and have had occasional issues with the store (but it doesn't bother me that much as I rarely use the store as I find most of the apps in there rubbish)

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[quote name='ArialBlue' timestamp='1350314021' post='595248647']
Re-read my post.
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Arrgh, surfing the web in the middle of the night kind of gets to you sometimes. I apologize :)

Terrible if that's the case.

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[quote name='ArialBlue' timestamp='1350280845' post='595247999']
I noticed that you cannot update your metro apps without having Windows Firewall enabled.

What the hell does Windows Firewall have to do with software updates, I have no clue.
Why force users to use Windows Firewall, effectively barring other firewalls, I have no clue.
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Just a guess, but it sounds like the other firewall software you were using doesn't properly manage ports on your actual firewall/router (i.e. via uPnP).

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[quote name='Brandon Live' timestamp='1350318886' post='595248761']


Just a guess, but it sounds like the other firewall software you were using doesn't properly manage ports on your actual firewall/router (i.e. via uPnP).
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None here. Just eventually figured out that you need Windows Firewall Service running to update metro apps for some reason.
Turned it on and whola I can update my Metro apps.

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[quote name='ArialBlue' timestamp='1350328841' post='595249081']
None here. Just eventually figured out that you need Windows Firewall Service running to update metro apps for some reason.
Turned it on and whola I can update my Metro apps.
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What do you mean? You're not behind a router?

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[quote name='Brandon Live' timestamp='1350330659' post='595249149']
What do you mean? You're not behind a router?
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Well I have this basic DSL modem box thing and it has a Firewall.
I disabled Windows Firewall service in services.msc and I was unable to update Metro Applications.
Turned it back on I was able to do so again. I am not sure what else I can say here.

I just checked, Windows Firewall is disabled and I cannot update things through the store.
0x80073d0a 0x80246007 0x80073cff

Normal updates work - those rely on other networking services.

You Windows dev guys really have WAAAAY too complicated update systems, just update using like port 80 https.. Edited by ArialBlue

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[quote name='AngelGraves13' timestamp='1349827510' post='595236899']
Also...I have 2 Updates to be installed...but where?[/quote]
I had this occur as well and managed to clear it.

2 things came together when this went away for me, so I'm still not sure which one did it or if it was a combo.[list=1]
[*]Item #1: Run Windows update and install [url="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2756872"]KB2756872[/url].
[*]Item #2: Sync licenses
[list=1]
[*]Go in to the [b]Windows Store[/b]
[*]Go to [b]Settings[/b]
[*]Go to [b]App Updates[/b]
[*]Click [b]Sync[/b] [b]licenses[/b]
[*]Click [b]Check for Updates[/b]
[*]It took a reboot for it to clear
[/list]
[/list]
Either way, my issues with the app store have been resolved and I'm a happy user at the moment. I had the one you mentioned originally and then the phantom updates.

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I have 11 updates it seams, well only on the tile, when i open the App store it dosent say updates anywhere...

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[quote name='Chester0' timestamp='1350352030' post='595249855']
I have 11 updates it seams, well only on the tile, when i open the App store it dosent say updates anywhere...
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Not even in the top right corner? Did you try what I [url="http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1111221-windows-8-apps-nightmare/page__view__findpost__p__595249805"]posted earlier[/url]?

I am really curious if it resolves this or if it was perfect timing on my end when the issue resolved itself.

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[quote name='zeke009' timestamp='1350350120' post='595249805']
I had this occur as well and managed to clear it.

2 things came together when this went away for me, so I'm still not sure which one did it or if it was a combo.[list=1]
[*]Item #1: Run Windows update and install [url="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2756872"]KB2756872[/url].
[*]Item #2: Sync licenses
[list=1]
[*]Go in to the [b]Windows Store[/b]
[*]Go to [b]Settings[/b]
[*]Go to [b]App Updates[/b]
[*]Click [b]Sync[/b] [b]licenses[/b]
[*]Click [b]Check for Updates[/b]
[*]It took a reboot for it to clear
[/list]
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Either way, my issues with the app store have been resolved and I'm a happy user at the moment. I had the one you mentioned originally and then the phantom updates.
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Already had that installed. It's working now, but it took some troubleshooting.

Everything is working now, so I'll just continue to enjoy Windows 8.

And is it just me, or do the Windows 8 Apps still suck? Haven't found one useful app yet. It's easier for me to go to eBay with Chrome rather than with the App.

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[quote name='AngelGraves13' timestamp='1350370521' post='595250269']
Already had that installed. It's working now, but it took some troubleshooting.

Everything is working now, so I'll just continue to enjoy Windows 8.

And is it just me, or do the Windows 8 Apps still suck? Haven't found one useful app yet. It's easier for me to go to eBay with Chrome rather than with the App.
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I've un-installed every Windows 8 app except for Netflix and One Note. All the rest are next to useless IMO.

I keep on checking the app store every week or so for new additions but generally if I do install something it's gone within a few minutes.

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The only app that I found useful are 3rd party such as Evernote.

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