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#16 LaP

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 18:16

It is useless.

The person who typed it up DID not make a mistake for two reasons:

1: Thats how low it actually is
2: If they mistyped it, it would be false advertisement and lawsuit.


Anyway 256KB/s is still kinda high. You can download a 720p mkv file in around 5 or 6 hours at this speed. There would be no point to reduce the speed if people could still download HD movies in less than a day.

32KB/s is kinda low tough. 64KB/s would have been more resonable.


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 18:18

Any company can actually advertise this and get away with it:


"BRAND NEW COMPANY WITH AWESOME INTERNET SPEEDS. guaranteed 458752 bPS!"

Sounds like a big number right? Wrong. They would be just selling dialup.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 18:18

I have ran speed tests on various websites. Results are (down/up):

1.23 Mb/s / 0.104 Mb/s
276 kbps / 59 kbps
215.73 Kbps (0.2 Mbps) / 59.98 Kbps (0.1 Mbps)
243 kbps / 36 kbps

So yep, I'm restricted to 32 KB/s for the next week. Ouch.

Who would have thought we pay £17.50 (not inc. line rental) for this connection :pinch:

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 18:19

Better than 56Kbps....

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 18:26

Eh, either way, it'd make more sense if they were consistent with it, with Kbps = kilobits per second and KBps being kilobytes per second. On another note though, 250GB a month is a lot of data. I usually hit around 80-90GB a month on my DSL connection, and I download quite a bit of stuff weekly, not to mention Netflix and youtube regularly.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 18:26

Better than 56Kbps....


My first internet connection was a 9600 text connection. We (me and my friends) had to use a hack and connect to the server using telnet and install a small nix app in our home folder on the server to access the internet connection of the server via our 9600 text connection using telnet. Ah those were the good ol days XD.

The cie never got us doing it rofl

Also note that sometime companies rate 1kbits/s as 1000bits/s while file download softwares will consider 1KB/s to be 1024bytes/s. So 256kbits/s might not be 32KB/s but 31.25KB/s

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 18:58

So you went over your 250GB already for this month? its only the 10th of the Month -- or does your month end on different days?

Im on comcast and they have a 250GB limit as well, and have never even gotten close to it.. Here are last few months of usage

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I would look into better tracking of your usage, so if you do have some big downloads you want to do time them for near month end so if you do go over your only restricted for a couple of days at most.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 19:07

So you went over your 250GB already for this month? its only the 10th of the Month -- or does your month end on different days?

Im on comcast and they have a 250GB limit as well, and have never even gotten close to it.. Here are last few months of usage

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I would look into better tracking of your usage, so if you do have some big downloads you want to do time them for near month end so if you do go over your only restricted for a couple of days at most.

We have two family members who use Netflix in two separate rooms, and they watch HD content each. I also review PC games, so have to download 15 GB of ISOs from our company weekly for this purpose alone.

We used 250 GB in 21 days.

To be fair, we have only had the connection for 3 weeks and we only found out last week that we can download as much as we want between 00:00 and 08:00 without it affecting the cap. Since we were never informed of this period (in fact, one person at the ISP said it was "unlimited at all times" and one said we'd only be dropped to 2Mbps and not 0.125Mbps), we are currently going through a complaints procedure with them.

They said "it was all over the website" but we ordered by phone. Just because we can look on the website, doesn't mean people should have to look at the website. Such conditions should be mentioned during the phone order, especially when asked (which we did).

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 19:27

So lets see 15x4 = 60 + Netflix bandwidth

http://support.netfl...de/87#gsc.tab=0

There are 3 settings to choose from:
  • Good quality (uses up to 0.3 GB per hour)
  • Better quality (uses up to 0.7 GB per hour)
  • Best quality (uses up to 1 GB per hour, or up to 2.3 GB per hour if watching HD)
So even at 2.3GB /hour your looking at in 3 weeks minus even your 60GB for the month your looking at what 80 hours of HD video to hit your limit..

Really you watched 80 hours of video in 3 weeks?

That's crazy dude! Might want to look on changing your video settings on netflix ;) Or bringing in another line.. Setup one for netflix only - so your looking at 250/2.3 or 108 hours of video a month. And then the other 250 you can use for internet and your isos you need to download.

I agree with you that they should of atleast mentioned looking at the website for their TOS and bandwidth restrictions. But to be honest it is up to the buyer understands limits, not the other way around. If when you ordered someone stated you had unlimited -- then sure you have a legit complaint.

#25 ILikeTobacco

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 19:32

They said "it was all over the website" but we ordered by phone. Just because we can look on the website, doesn't mean people should have to look at the website. Such conditions should be mentioned during the phone order, especially when asked (which we did).

An ISP saying it is all over the website is like a cable company saying it was all over the commercial. How do you get access to those things before you buy access to them. They can't expect you to get information from a source that requires their service to reach the source.

That's crazy dude! Might want to look on changing your video settings on netflix ;) Or bringing in another line.. Setup one for netflix only - so your looking at 250/2.3 or 108 hours of video a month. And then the other 250 you can use for internet and your isos you need to download.



And maybe get your job to pay for the extra line since it is for their profit.

#26 Navan

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 19:35

It's standard for ISPs all over the world to advertise speed as bits and not bytes. So yes, you will receive 256kilobits i.e 32kBytes.