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#46 OP Yusuf M.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 15:43

Take a look at this ship. The cheapest package it comes in is "Come Fly With Me" for $250 USD. Current backers can upgrade their pledge ships and still get lifetime insurance for up to a year so I'll upgrade to it eventually. Right now, I have the RSI Aurora ("Early Adopter [Digital]"). I'm going to upgrade to the Origin 300i ("Make Mine A Double").

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I plan on being a pirate in Star Citizen so I would have loved to get this ship instead. The Drake Cutlass is a $100 add-on ship that comes with a tractor beam and a docking collar. But it's only available for a limited time. Once the grace period ends on Monday, the ship will no longer be available for purchase.

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#47 OP Yusuf M.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:28

They've raised over $12.2M so far. The main site has been redesigned. Also, ships purchased after July 6th will not come with lifetime insurance (LTI). This means you'll have to use in-game credits to purchase insurance for one, three, or six months.

 

Now is the time to make a pledge. If you do it before July 6th, you'll become a veteran backer. You get some rewards as well as lifetime insurance for your ship. The cheapest package is the Digital Scout for $30 USD.

 

Anyway, I finally got the ship I wanted from the beginning (Origin 300i upgraded to 325A):

 

 



#48 trip21

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:58

They've raised over $12.2M so far. The main site has been redesigned. Also, ships purchased after July 6th will not come with lifetime insurance (LTI). This means you'll have to use in-game credits to purchase insurance for one, three, or six months.

 

 

 

If you've already backed them do you still only have until the 6th to get other ships with LTI or is it extended until the game is at some sort of release stage? I took a Colonel package last year and am interested in the bombers but they haven't revealed them yet, I don't want to buy something that's a POC when released like the Avenger!



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:30

If you've already backed them do you still only have until the 6th to get other ships with LTI or is it extended until the game is at some sort of release stage?

From what I understand the July 6th date relates to a specific set of limited edition ships but you'll still be able to upgrade to other ships after that if you're already a backer. It's all a bit convoluted.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:42

If you've already backed them do you still only have until the 6th to get other ships with LTI or is it extended until the game is at some sort of release stage? I took a Colonel package last year and am interested in the bombers but they haven't revealed them yet, I don't want to buy something that's a POC when released like the Avenger!


They made a post a few hours ago regarding this very thing - https://robertsspace...e-Period-Update

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 18:27

If you've already backed them do you still only have until the 6th to get other ships with LTI or is it extended until the game is at some sort of release stage? I took a Colonel package last year and am interested in the bombers but they haven't revealed them yet, I don't want to buy something that's a POC when released like the Avenger!

No. If you already backed, then you're either an original backer (backed before November 26th 2012) or a veteran backer (after November 26th 2012). The July 6th deadline is for a limited number of ships (Aurora LX, 350r, M50, Starfarer, Caterpillar, Gladiator and Retaliator) and lifetime insurance for new backers. Original and veteran backers have nothing to worry about for LTI. They can buy any ships they want minus the ones that won't be available after July 26th until November 26th 2013.

 

This image explains it well:

 

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Source: https://robertsspace...e-Clarification

 

From what I understand the July 6th date relates to a specific set of limited edition ships but you'll still be able to upgrade to other ships after that if you're already a backer. It's all a bit convoluted.

That's correct. However, the July 6th deadline is important for people that haven't backed already. After that date, they won't be able to get ships with lifetime insurance.



#52 SirEvan

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 18:42

oh man.  freelancer, privateer, wing commander...all those games from the ~90's were AWESOME.  may just donate to this.

 

Edit: just donated 65$.  Can't wait.



#53 OP Yusuf M.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 20:30

oh man.  freelancer, privateer, wing commander...all those games from the ~90's were AWESOME.  may just donate to this.

 

Edit: just donated 65$.  Can't wait.

Nice. You're a veteran backer now so you can purchase more ships with LTI up until November 26th 2013. You can also buy ships for your friends and send it to them as a gift. The cool thing about doing that is transferring lifetime insurance to them.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 21:50

Looks interesting. Little confused about it, I click buy package and get More ship purchase options. If you crash + Die, do you lose your ship ?



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 22:11

Looks interesting. Little confused about it, I click buy package and get More ship purchase options. If you crash + Die, do you lose your ship ?

 

 

If you get LifeTimeInsurance you get your ship back free of charge. Normal users that don't have LTI can buy insurance for their ship in game. (Missions give you credits etc.)



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 23:38

Looks interesting. Little confused about it, I click buy package and get More ship purchase options. If you crash + Die, do you lose your ship ?

If you don't pledge before July 6th, you'll only be able to get ships with Standard Hull Insurance. This will last for a set period of time (e.g. one, three, or six months). If you pledge before July 6th, you'll gain veteran backer status and any ship you buy will have Lifetime Insurance (LTI). Also, any future ships you buy after the deadline will also have LTI.

 

If your ship is uninsured and it gets destroyed or stolen, then it's gone. It's not as bad as you may think though. All ships will come with Standard Hull Insurance so you'll be good for one, three, or six months. After the insurance expires, you'll have to renew it using in-game currency (credits) which you can earn in missions or through trading/selling.

 

You can read more about the insurance here.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 23:46

So what is the monetization story on this game?

 

I'm not a fan of crowdfunding so I probably won't partake, but I'm curious as to how this is designed to shape up for "backers".

 

So if you purchased one of those expensive ships >$100 what does that net you in addition to the ship and LTI (before 7/6)? Will you have paid that $100 and still be saddled with a monthly fee (similar to EVE Online)?



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 00:52

I've been interested in this game for a while, but IMO the funding options are a mess. And everything seems to be timed limited edition pre-orders.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 00:56

So I'm reading the estimated release date is Q4 2014 or Q1 2015 for this game... And it's being built on Cryengine 3. But then that will be outdated and I foresee them "rewriting the game on a different engine" by then half of the developers will have departed for other companies/projects, revenue will trickle because of a lack of a launch and the entire project will suffer and eventually disappear without a release. Or a third party will snatch up the 75% completed game/code, throw in a ton of in-game app purchase add-ons and DLC to buy and release it with bug ridden issues but cash out on it as quickly as possible, drop support after the first 2 patches and then abandon the servers shortly after.

 

Am I pretty close to how anyone else feels this is going to end up?



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:00

So what is the monetization story on this game?

 

I'm not a fan of crowdfunding so I probably won't partake, but I'm curious as to how this is designed to shape up for "backers".

 

So if you purchased one of those expensive ships >$100 what does that net you in addition to the ship and LTI (before 7/6)? Will you have paid that $100 and still be saddled with a monthly fee (similar to EVE Online)?

The cheapest package ($30) comes with a digital download of the full game but I read that it will launch at $60. It won't use a traditional MMO subscription model like Eve Online. Instead, it'll be like Guild Wars 2 where you only pay for the game once.

 

After the initial $60 for the game, it'll be supported by micro-transactions to purchase in-game currency (credits) which can be used to buy ships, weapons, upgrades, and more. The benefit of supporting the game now is having the opportunity to by limited edition ships, lifetime insurance for any ship you purchase, and basically getting the full game for as little as $30.

 

I've been interested in this game for a while, but IMO the funding options are a mess. And everything seems to be timed limited edition pre-orders.

You have to understand that the game is still in the funding phase. People have an opportunity to support the game and because of that, they're being rewarded with the opportunity to buy some stuff that players won't have access to in the early stages of the game. Of course, not everything is time-limited.

 

So I'm reading the estimated release date is Q4 2014 or Q1 2015 for this game... And it's being built on Cryengine 3. But then that will be outdated and I foresee them "rewriting the game on a different engine" by then half of the developers will have departed for other companies/projects, revenue will trickle because of a lack of a launch and the entire project will suffer and eventually disappear without a release. Or a third party will snatch up the 75% completed game/code, throw in a ton of in-game app purchase add-ons and DLC to buy and release it with bug ridden issues but cash out on it as quickly as possible, drop support after the first 2 patches and then abandon the servers shortly after.

 

Am I pretty close to how anyone else feels this is going to end up?

The estimated release date is Q4 2014 (November). CryENGINE 3 isn't as outdated as Unreal Engine 3. And they can't use Frostbite 2/3. A game like this takes time to build so using current tech is absolutely necessary. Also, Crytek updates CryENGINE 3 and I'm sure the Star Citizen team will incorporate those updates. As for the development team, I'm sure there will be a few that will stay to the end. The rest may be temporary. With that said, the team is dedicated and what they've told (and shown) us so far is good. I have the utmost faith in them.