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#31 jakem1

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 20:24

How are they different software-wise from Samsung's or HTC's WPs? The answer is very little,


You're clearly not aware of what Nokia have been doing with WP. They're differentiating from other OEMs through software and services as well as superior hardware design. The strategy's working for them because they've become the largest WP OEM in a small period of time.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 20:32

You're clearly not aware of what Nokia have been doing with WP. They're differentiating from other OEMs through software and services as well as superior hardware design. The strategy's working for them because they've become the largest WP OEM in a small period of time.


I'm well aware of Nokia Maps, Lens and their other apps, but would that stuff really sway someone to buy a Nokia over a different WP? The answer is no, Windows Phone can only really compete on hardware.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:10

The strategy's working for them because they've become the largest WP OEM in a small period of time.


The largest OEM for an OS that pretty much no one else was interested in selling. They were also the largest Meego OEM.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:56

I think Nokia announces 3rd quarter earnings in 4 days (Thursday, October 18th). I don't think they will be very good, considering this is the quarter leading up to the launch of WP8, with existing devices only getting WP7.8. Still, it should be better than 2nd quarter earnings.

I definitely don't believe Nokia's management is asleep at the wheel. I think 4th quarter earnings will be very interesting and there is still talk of a Nokia tablet. And for investors starting a position in Nokia now, there is opportunity for very huge profits if Nokia can turn this around. It's probably best to wait until after the 3rd quarter earnings are announced though, because I don't think they will be good.

I'd also wait on investing in Microsoft until the amount of that huge fine is announced that the EU is going to charge them for accidentally breaking the browser choice ballot window for a while.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 22:07

I'm well aware of Nokia Maps, Lens and their other apps, but would that stuff really sway someone to buy a Nokia over a different WP? The answer is no, Windows Phone can only really compete on hardware.


Given the fact that they're outselling HTC and Samsung the answer is obviously yes.

I have a Samsung WP but my next phone will be a Nokia because they've demonstrated that they're much more committed to developing the platform and providing additional value through the software they add to their phones. By comparison, Samsung have done very little and have only ever released a few worthless apps. HTC have a slightly better track record but up until now they've been more interested in pushing Sense-like features that don't appeal to me.

The other problem that HTC and Samsung have is that they've been constrained by their Android phone and have simply recycled designs for WP. HTC's latest phones seem to buck that trend which is a good thing but Samsung's next WP is simply a rebranded Galaxy S3 and it's pretty clear that they're not interested in competing with Nokia.

The largest OEM for an OS that pretty much no one else was interested in selling.


I think that's about to change. Android isn't working for HTC and it's clear that they intend to invest more in WP to try and grow their business again. They've pretty much said this and it's their new designs prove that they're starting to take WP seriously. Samsung have no reason to try too hard with WP as their Galaxy range is successful enough but it's obvious that they're the only OEM that's able to make a success of Android.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 23:56

You post this article on a MS fanboy site?

And expect to have an objective discussion of it?

LOL

#37 nekkidtruth

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 00:16

All of this will be a moot point when Samsung brings it's hardware over to the WP side. The Ativ S is basically a high end Galaxy device with WP8 on it. If they can bring the hardware they've brought to Android, they'll pretty much annihilate Nokia and anyone else. That's my prediction anyway. Samsung brought it's A-game to Android and it succeeded. It's ramping up to do the same WP side.

As a side note, the only reason Nokia is even a blip on the radar at this point is because they were really the only ones to embrace WP to begin with. When you're the only one actively selling Windows Phones, it's hard not to be on top ;)

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:29

Just got a 60$ Nokia with dual sim. weeeeee. They are not good at high end stuff but overseas they are popular in the poorer countries. This article is all 1st world problems

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 07:14

I think that's about to change. Android isn't working for HTC and it's clear that they intend to invest more in WP to try and grow their business again. They've pretty much said this and it's their new designs prove that they're starting to take WP seriously. Samsung have no reason to try too hard with WP as their Galaxy range is successful enough but it's obvious that they're the only OEM that's able to make a success of Android.


Maybe, but the point is that they got the lead with WP7 when no one else was selling it and they might or might not be able to retain that lead if other OEMs get serious about WP8.

HTC was also doing great early in the Android game, just to be obliterated by Samsung later on.