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Just found this. Very interesting. Been reading it. This man's story is truly amazing.

[url="http://www.lulu.com/shop/clark-c-mcclelland/the-stargate-chronicles-chapters-1-10/ebook/product-20457930.html"]http://www.lulu.com/shop/clark-c-mcclelland/the-stargate-chronicles-chapters-1-10/ebook/product-20457930.html[/url]

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And it's all true ;)

[i]He exposes NASA's hidden agendas like no one else has. This is truly a must-read. This book will blow your mind and will open your eyes. We are truly not alone in the universe and our governments have been hiding the truth form us for years.[/i]

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What are Romney's positions about alien immgrant? :p
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[quote name='Hum' timestamp='1350758769' post='595260609']
And it's all true ;)

[i]He exposes NASA's hidden agendas like no one else has. This is truly a must-read. This book will blow your mind and will open your eyes. We are truly not alone in the universe and our governments have been hiding the truth form us for years.[/i]
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And if you read the bible and take everything "on faith" you will learn that the earth is 6000 years old, Donkeys and Snakes sometimes talk and all life originated from a drunkards boat.

The above isn't impressive.
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[quote name='TPreston' timestamp='1350760067' post='595260627']
And if you read the bible and take everything "on faith" you will learn that the earth is 6000 years old, Donkeys and Snakes sometimes talk and all life originated from a drunkards boat.

The above isn't impressive.
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The Earth is 4.5 billion years old, not 6,000 years. The Bible is wrong. It would be absolutely dumb and ignorant for anyone in this world to even think that we are the only ones in the universe. That this planet is the only planet with life. Religion fan boys will tell you that we are the only ones and that aliens are devils and anyone who believes in aliens is evil. Bullsh....t.

We live on one side of the Milky Way galaxy. What makes you think there isn't life at the other side? I believe there is a reason why "God" put us here. Isolated and far away from the rest of "life" in the universe. There must be a reason. Maybe "God" thinks we are too young and too dangerous to be with the rest of "life" or maybe that "life" out there is too dangerous for us to relate with. Who knows, but one thing is certain:

We are not alone.
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i think this says it best:

[img]http://1111now.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/intelligence.gif[/img]
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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1350760478' post='595260641']
The Earth is 4.5 billion years old, not 6,000 years. The Bible is wrong. It would be absolutely dumb and ignorant for anyone in this world to even think that we are the only ones in the universe. That this planet is the only planet with life. Religion fan boys will tell you that we are the only ones and that aliens are devils and anyone who believes in aliens is evil. Bullsh....t.

We live on one side of the Milky Way galaxy. What makes you think there isn't life at the other side? I believe there is a reason why "God" put us here. Isolated and far away from the rest of "life" in the universe. There must be a reason. Maybe "God" thinks we are too young and too dangerous to be with the "rest" of life or maybe that life out there is too dangerous for us to relate with. Who knows, but one thing is certain:

We are not alone.
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I can't tell if you missed the obvious sarcasm in his post, or if I'm missing yours.

Anyway, I have little doubt that we are alone. I just don't believe some guy who wrote a book available [i]for only $14.99[/i] has all the answers here. I mean, it sounds like a bit of a stretch here, and I don't want to sound like a "conspiracy theorist" but... he could be just trying to sell a book. :o

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1350760478' post='595260641']
The Earth is 4.5 billion years old, not 6,000 years. The Bible is wrong. It would be absolutely dumb and ignorant for anyone in this world to even think that we are the only ones in the universe. That this planet is the only planet with life. Religion fan boys will tell you that we are the only ones and that aliens are devils and anyone who believes in aliens is evil. Bullsh....t.
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Sure but people take it "on faith" which is what hum suggest we do.

[quote]We live on one side of the Milky Way galaxy. What makes you think there isn't life at the other side?[/quote]

There might be, Although how such life managed to come from the other side of the galaxy to earth and then crash at Roswell needs a big explanation. What did they get in range of our wifi and take their eyes off the wheel while looking at porn.

[quote]We are not alone.[/quote]

The time to make that claim is when we have sufficient evidence to demonstrate it not a book divinely inspired or not.

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[quote name='Arpit' timestamp='1350760957' post='595260649']
i think this says it best:

[img]http://1111now.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/intelligence.gif[/img]
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Are you sure about that? What makes you think they haven't already?

Google up: Jessie Marcel

Before he died, he revealed everything he knew. He was dying. He didn't care what the government did to him anymore. I believe every word he said. He was a righteous man and a man of honor and dignity. We have had contact since the Roswell incident my dear friend.

Why does the government hide it from us civilians? Very simple:

We are prejudice against each other. We can't live together in peace with our own, what makes you think we will accept another race of beings in our lives?

The world is not prepared nor ready for such a shock. We are still ignorant and stupid. We are savages with a lot to learn still.

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1350761305' post='595260657']
Are you sure about that? What makes you think they haven't already?

Google up: Jessie Marcel

Before he died, he revealed everything he knew. He was dying. He didn't care what the government did to him anymore. I believe every word he said. He was a righteous man and a man of honor and dignity. We have had contact since the Roswell incident my dear friend.

Why does the government hide it from us civilians? Very simple:

We are prejudice against each other. We can't live together in peace with our own, what makes you think we will accept another race of beings in our lives?

The world is not prepared nor ready for such a shock. We are still ignorant and stupid. We are savages with a lot to learn still.
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Why should anyone believe him over this man [url="http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/im-jesus-riverland-man-says/story-e6frea83-1226055976446"]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/im-jesus-riverland-man-says/story-e6frea83-1226055976446[/url]

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[quote name='dead.cell' timestamp='1350761209' post='595260651']
I can't tell if you missed the obvious sarcasm in his post, or if I'm missing yours.

Anyway, I have little doubt that we are alone. I just don't believe some guy who wrote a book available [i]for only $14.99[/i] has all the answers here. I mean, it sounds like a bit of a stretch here, and I don't want to sound like a "conspiracy theorist" but... he could be just trying to sell a book. :o
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His book is about his experiences at NASA when he worked there and the things he saw and had to do to cover up things.

[quote name='TPreston' timestamp='1350761377' post='595260661']
Why should anyone believe him over this man [url="http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/im-jesus-riverland-man-says/story-e6frea83-1226055976446"]http://www.adelaiden...3-1226055976446[/url]
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Because that man on your link its an obvious hallucinating idiot whos never worked for the government in his entire life. Please...Do not try to compare Mayor Jessie Marcel to that fake clown. Everyone on this planet knows Jesus came and went thousands of years ago.

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1350761564' post='595260665']
His book is about his experiences at NASA when he worked there and the things he saw and had to do to cover up things.

Because that man on your link its an obvious hallucinating idiot whos never worked for the government in his entire life. Please...Do not try to compare Mayor Jessie Marcel to that fake clown. Everyone on this planet knows Jesus came and went thousands of years ago.
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Well no actually they don't because there are no independent accounts regardless relaying on personal testimony is idiotic, For example lets say there has been no alien contact and the sighting's in the sky are simply advanced aircraft (something for which their is actual evidence for I might add) and this man has been paid off to prevent nosy people like you from revealing the truth.

So while you are crying wolf about these sightings being aliens from another planet the real story that these are in fact the next generation of aircraft has been buried.

That's just one other claim, One for which there is the same (ie no) evidence for. So even if we accept your appeal to authority I can just as easily turn the whole thing around.

Call me back when you have real tangible evidence not an appeal to authority

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[img]http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll71/canoraid/tin-foil-hat.jpg[/img]

Sooo, do you prefer regular or heavy-duty tin foil for that hat?

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Well, all we can do is hope that his book sells well to show how many suckers are still out there in the world.

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[quote name='TPreston' timestamp='1350762055' post='595260677']
Well no actually they don't because there are no independent accounts regardless relaying on personal testimony is idiotic, For example lets say there has been no alien contact and the sighting's in the sky are simply advanced aircraft (something for which their is actual evidence for I might add) and this man has been paid off to prevent nosy people like you from revealing the truth.

So while you are crying wolf about these sightings being aliens from another planet the real story that these are in fact the next generation of aircraft has been buried.

That's just one other claim, One for which there is the same (ie no) evidence for. So even if we accept your appeal to authority I can just as easily turn the whole thing around.

Call me back when you have real tangible evidence not an appeal to authority
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Oh so you are basically saying that back in 1947 the United States of America crashed its own UFO in Roswell, complete with hieroglyphics (as described by Mayor Marcel himself) - I don't know of any aircraft to this day that has those printed on its side - and because it was such a top secret mission (after the US ARMY declared they found a saucer), the next day the print was "corrected" and it was changed to a "Weather Balloon" and Jessie Marcel told and ordered to say it was such.

Dude, seriously, if you think our government is not hiding the truth about UFOs from us, then I don't know what to tell you. Open your eyes man. The evidence over the years speaks for itself.

[quote name='TPreston' timestamp='1350761270' post='595260655']
Sure but people take it "on faith" which is what hum suggest we do.



There might be, Although how such life managed to come from the other side of the galaxy to earth and then crash at Roswell needs a big explanation. What did they get in range of our wifi and take their eyes off the wheel while looking at porn.



The time to make that claim is when we have sufficient evidence to demonstrate it not a book divinely inspired or not.
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I bet you believe the Moon doesn't exist either, right?

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1350763015' post='595260699']
Oh so you are basically saying that back in 1947 the United States of America crashed its own UFO in Roswell
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No im not claiming this, I would never claim something for which I don't have evidence for however

hypothetically yes planes crash ?


[quote]complete with hieroglyphics (as described by Mayor Marcel himself) I don't know of any aircraft to this day that has those printed on its side I don't know of any aircraft to this day that has those printed on its side[/quote]

No this relays on his testimony which in this little hypothetical is void because he is paid to make you think its of alien origin.

I don't really believe this but its got far less plot holes than what you are suggesting.

[quote]Dude, seriously, if you think our government is not hiding the truth about UFOs from us, then I don't know what to tell you. Open your eyes man. The evidence over the years speaks for itself.[/quote]

I see nothing that separates this from peoples religious claims. Personal testimony holds no weight with me you need real tangible physical evidence.

[quote]I bet you believe the Moon doesn't exist either, right? [/quote]

Interesting that you bring that up as the rocks they brought back from there have been independently verified in multiple countries by multiple organization's. This is the kind of evidence I would accept for your claim.

Call me when you have some alien artifacts to test.

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[quote name='TPreston' timestamp='1350763818' post='595260727']
No im not claiming this, I would never claim something for which I don't have evidence for however

hypothetically yes planes crash ?[/quote]

So if it was a plane, why would they go through all that trouble and not simply say: "An experimental aircraft has crashed in the desert", instead of lying and making up stories.

Seriously.

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1350764216' post='595260737']
So if it was a plane, why would they go through all that trouble and not simply say: "An experimental aircraft has crashed in the desert", instead of lying and making up stories.

Seriously.
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[quote name='TPreston' timestamp='1350762055' post='595260677']
Well no actually they don't because there are no independent accounts regardless relaying on personal testimony is idiotic, For example lets say there has been no alien contact and the sighting's in the sky are simply advanced aircraft (something for which their is actual evidence for I might add) and this man has been [b]paid off to prevent nosy people like you from revealing the truth.

So while you are crying wolf about these sightings being aliens from another planet the real story that these are in fact the next generation of aircraft has been buried.[/b]

That's just one other claim, One for which there is the same (ie no) evidence for. So even if we accept your appeal to authority I can just as easily turn the whole thing around.

Call me back when you have real tangible evidence not an appeal to authority
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:rolleyes:

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[quote name='TPreston' timestamp='1350764344' post='595260741']
:rolleyes:
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[i][size=4][b]"[font=arial]I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of extraterrestrials but I can tell you if there [/font][i]had been[/i][font=arial] a top secret meeting and if there [/font][i]would have had[/i][/b][font=arial][b] to have been a discussion about it, it would have taken place in this room."[/b] [/font][/size][/i]

[i][size=4][font=arial]- [/font][/size][/i][size=4][font=arial]President Barack Obama responding to Will Smith's son question about the existence of Aliens.[/font][/size]
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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1350764582' post='595260749']
[i][size=4][b]"[font=arial]I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of extraterrestrials but I can tell you if there [/font][i]had been[/i][font=arial] a top secret meeting and if there [/font][i]would have had[/i][/b][font=arial][b] to have been a discussion about it, it would have taken place in this room."[/b] [/font][/size][/i]

[i][size=4][font=arial]- [/font][/size][/i][size=4][font=arial]President Barack Obama responding to Will Smith's son question about the existence of Aliens.[/font][/size]
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Well there we have it guys; Undeniable proof.

I think we can move this and all other UFO topics out of the "It's A Conspiracy" section now.

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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFdAJRVm94"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFdAJRVm94[/url]

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I heard NASA was founded by Verner Von Braun, lead scientist/engineer of the Nazi rocket program. His original design, the V2, was the foundation for our first rocket after WW2. When American scientists asked him about the old rocket program, Braun allegedly said: "We had help from [i]them[/i]", and he pointed to a stack of "classified" UFO documents. I don't know how true any of it is, but it was cool to hear.

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1350764582' post='595260749']
[i][size=4][b]"[font=arial]I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of extraterrestrials but I can tell you if there [/font][i]had been[/i][font=arial] a top secret meeting and if there [/font][i]would have had[/i][/b][font=arial][b] to have been a discussion about it, it would have taken place in this room."[/b] [/font][/size][/i]

[i][size=4][font=arial]- [/font][/size][/i][size=4][font=arial]President Barack Obama responding to Will Smith's son question about the existence of Aliens.[/font][/size]
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And that's exactly what you would expect him to say if my "make the truthers run around like headless chickens looking for aliens instead of at our secret project" hypothesis was correct

Too easy :rolleyes:

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Are there any "UFO cover ups" from other countries?? I only ever seem to see ones from USA, Surely the aliens have contacted/crashed in to other countries too.

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[quote name='exotoxic' timestamp='1350766714' post='595260815']
Are there any "UFO cover ups" from other countries?? I only ever seem to see ones from USA, Surely the aliens have contacted/crashed in to other countries too.
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[b] [size=5]Newly released UFO files from the UK government[/size][/b]

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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