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#16 Enron

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:31

Windows 8 more viable than Steam for gaming.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:35

I care. I probably have 300-400 $ of games with them.


I have a lot of games with Steam as well. If the primary platform those games are developed for becomes closed it's a big concern for all PC gamers.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:36

wouldn't work under linux btw


They would have to be ported. So basically all Source games, Humble Bundles, Serious Sam, and many more games are in the process of doing so.

So then Windows is still an open platform, no? That includes the option to install Valve?


The desktop version of Windows, yes. If Microsoft didn't want to let an app in the store, it doesn't have too, which is kind of bull. They also take a chunk of money from devs, which is unfair to them.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:37

I'm just going to wait for the results of the November Steam Hardware & Software survey. Maybe then Valve will realize a big portion of their userbase has no problem using Windows 8.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:38

Whether their customers are prepared to use it isn't their issue, it's the freedom Microsoft are giving developers that Valve have the problem with. Most people don't even seem to be interested in trying to understand the point Valve are making they just fly off the handle the moment anyone says anything negative about Microsoft.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:38

valve would be silly not to cater for the windows 8 market

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:39

They also take a chunk of money from devs, which is unfair to them.


So instead of a chunk of money going to MS, It'll go to Valve instead? How is that any less "unfair".

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:39

They would have to be ported. So basically all Source games, Humble Bundles, Serious Sam, and many more games are in the process of doing so.


Which they could port those games to WinRT and probably get larger marketshare than from steam.. especially on linux of platforms.

The desktop version of Windows, yes. If Microsoft didn't want to let an app in the store, it doesn't have too, which is kind of bull. They also take a chunk of money from devs, which is unfair to them.


Microsoft doesn't charge royalties for desktop apps linked from marketplace. The royalty fees for "metro" "modern" "winrt" apps/games are also minimal since microsoft provides the entire platform/ecosystem/distribution and monetization for you - the very same thing that Steam is charging its clients for. (steam isn't free for publishers either.. they make their money by taking a cut)

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:40

The desktop version of Windows, yes. If Microsoft didn't want to let an app in the store, it doesn't have too, which is kind of bull. They also take a chunk of money from devs, which is unfair to them.


How is that ANY different to what Valve do with Steam? They don't put games on their store they don't want, and they take a cut of every sale, just like MS are doing with the Windows 8 store. Gabe is just throwing his toys out of the pram because MS, unlike EA with their Origin store, have the muscle to affect his bottom line.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:40

The desktop version of Windows, yes. If Microsoft didn't want to let an app in the store, it doesn't have too, which is kind of bull. They also take a chunk of money from devs, which is unfair to them.

Let's not forget that if Valve doesn't want to let an app into its store, it doesn't have to. Valve also take a chunk of money from devs, as do bricks-and-mortar retail stores; that's because distributing software costs money.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:40

So instead of a chunk of money going to MS, It'll go to Valve instead? How is that any less "unfair".


Less arbitrary restrictions and fairer distribution costs.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:42

Whether their customers are prepared to use it isn't their issue, it's the freedom Microsoft are giving developers that Valve have the problem with. Most people don't even seem to be interested in trying to understand the point Valve are making they just fly off the handle the moment anyone says anything negative about Microsoft.


Valve don't HAVE a point. They're just spreading FUD so they can attempt to protect their own revenue stream.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:42

Lets see, one is part of a monopolistic OS and one isn't? Doesn't seem very hard to distinguish if you try.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:44

Valve don't HAVE a point. They're just spreading FUD so they can attempt to protect their own revenue stream.


Of course they have a point, if the direction taken with 8 is a part of a move to close Windows as a platform, it's bad news for companies like Valve, and anyone who produces anything that isn't a casual game or a fart app.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 16:45

Less arbitrary restrictions and fairer distribution costs.

Who decides what's "fairer"?



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