Anti-Kool Aid Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 So tired of the Win8 is bigger/just like Windows 95 talk from Microsoft. Windows 8 is the anti-95. Win32 programs didn't gave you the feeling that something is amiss compared to Win 3.1 applications. (with Metro you have this feeling constantly). Even the first generation Win95 programs at launch felt more capable than their 3.1 precursors (Corel Draw 6, Office 95). Notro provides the complete opposite feeling. Windows 95 came with uncrippled winfile.exe and progman.exe (the win 3.1 GUI), and you were able to boot directly into it without even seeing 95's explorer.exe at all ("shell=progman.exe" in system.ini). (works in win 98 too) There was even an official option at the Windows 95 setup for that if you upgraded from Win3.1. You also were able to directly boot into DOS with ease (just set bootgui=0 in msdos.sys, that also worked in Win 98) Windows 95 is the anti-thesis to Windows 8. The philosophies were completely different. The team had enough courage to provide all these options because it truly seemed as if they were proud and confident about the system to stand on its own. Windows 8 on the other hand comes across as coward's darling - "the users are too stupid to appreciate our beautiful hippster GUI, let's cripple the desktop as much as we can to force them to this". Windows 95 didn't need any crippling, users have chosen explorer.exe because it was better, and they had the ability to use the old GUI without compromise If they wished to do so. Windows 95 is confidence. Windows 8 is cowardice. MFH, Dashel, MS Bob 11 and 13 others 16 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted October 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted October 29, 2012 I will never use Windows 8. I see no reason to. neevarp, Memphis, rageagainstmachine and 8 others 11 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imachip Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 They're just trying to sell their product, that's all. It's just prose and marketing to feed the media and fuel attention to their product. Same as Apple does. You might as well compare Windows 8 and BeOS or something because that's how alien Windows 95 is to the latest MS OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 29, 2012 MVC Share Posted October 29, 2012 I agree. Windows 95 IS a bad comparison. thealexweb, DesiSpark, Arceles and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Cowardice? Huh? Shane Ekanayake and Lprd2007 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I agree, it is a coward's darling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgevella Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I wonder if their were so many people crying 20 or so years ago when the first mouse and GUI was introduced to replace the command prompt. Lprd2007, nitins60 and Shane Ekanayake 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If you ask me here is the comparison. that is relivent to the Windows 95 And you also have to remember I have ran all of them Win 286/386 Tree Maps (and 1.0/2.0) Win 3.1 had -- "Windows with Icons on the Desktop" then came Win95 People said "Oh no how will I find the programs if they are not on the desktop-" Microsoft said - In the start menu of-course 98/ME/2k/XP/ Start menu Vista\7 all continued with the start menu Other than adding gadgets Now with Windows 8 People say "where can I find my programs if they are not in the start menu?" We have almost come full circle where the Icon's have returned to the desktop in one big window that scrolls except now they are called tiles and are active which replaced the gadgets" They basically combined Icons+ functions of a gadget = Tile . Now that is a comparison to Win95 where people say it changes what people were used to- Which is exactly what Windows 8 does What next this? Emon, gawicks, nitins60 and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 The only people who are cowards here are the one's not giving it a fair chance. skilithead, Duffydemon, thomastmc and 6 others 9 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_crabman Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 These threads are getting more melodramatic by the day. Windows 8 is cowardice? Really now? Lprd2007, Davo, thomastmc and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If you ask me here is the comparison. that is relivent to the Windows 95 And you also have to remember I have ran all of them Win 286/386 Tree Maps (and 1.0/2.0) Win 3.1 had -- "Windows with Icons on the Desktop" then came Win95 People said "Oh no how will I find the programs if they are not on the desktop-" Microsoft said - In the start menu of-course 98/ME/2k/XP/ Start menu Vista\7 all continued with the start menu Other than adding gadgets Now with Windows 8 People say "where can I find my programs if they are not in the start menu?" We have almost come full circle where the Icon's have returned to the desktop in one big window that scrolls except now they are called tiles and are active which replaced the gadgets" They basically combined Icons+ functions of a gadget = Tile . Now that is a comparison to Win95 where people say it changes what people were used to- Which is exactly what Windows 8 does What next this? thats for reminder, i actually do like gadgets in vista and 7. simple app that can be placed on a desktop, can show critial information, like weather, CPU usage, network usage etc.. doesn't take much space. always there, don't have to open any stupid start screen to get to it, always accessible. i know MS clains there were removed for security reason, they should have fixed the security hole, instead of removing a functionality. MFH 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Sorry, I've been running it full time in production since March, how much longer must I run it before I've given it a fair chance? trag3dy, The King of GnG, benthebear and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickkins Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 The fact is, there is nothing wrong with win8, as soon as Classic Shell is added. It then becomes a fine replacement for win7. It is the metro nonsense that is an epic fail. It is noteworthy that ms hedged their bets by leaving the ability to go back to full desktop. Win9 will surely see a built in option to choose..... Arceles, SoCalRox and kurupy 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 The fact is, there is nothing wrong with win8, as soon as Classic Shell is added. It then becomes a fine replacement for win7. It is the metro nonsense that is an epic fail. It is noteworthy that ms hedged their bets by leaving the ability to go back to full desktop. Win9 will surely see a built in option to choose..... using server 2012 with start8 and it usuable. boot to desktop, have a normal start menu, doesn't take entire screen, its faster to use. and on rare occiasion if i want to use metro i can launch it from start menu. what is weird that most non-microsoft metro apps will launch, while a lot of MS made metro apps will not start. Faulting application name: Solitaire.exe, version: 1.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x504e83e4 Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.2.9200.16384, time stamp: 0x5010ac2f Exception code: 0xe0434352 Fault offset: 0x00014b32 Faulting process id: 0xda0 Faulting application start time: 0x01cdab34ed2cc5a2 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection_1.0.0.3_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe\Solitaire.exe Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll Report Id: 2c31a7c6-1728-11e2-93f3-00044b1655f6 Faulting package full name: Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection_1.0.0.3_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe Faulting package-relative application ID: App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Som Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Sorry, I've been running it full time in production since March, how much longer must I run it before I've given it a fair chance? till you like it haha :p Glassed Silver, Joswin and AJerman 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSoft Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Really don't see the comparison with Win95 unless in broad strokes you are talking about the total shift (win3.x to win95 and win7 to win8). I've played with win8, have RTM loaded on one of my computers and now toying with switching it back to win7. Really don't like win8 and I don't think a lot of enterprises will like it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilambo Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Yadda, yadda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Really don't see the comparison with Win95 unless in broad strokes you are talking about the total shift (win3.x to win95 and win7 to win8). I've played with win8, have RTM loaded on one of my computers and now toying with switching it back to win7. Really don't like win8 and I don't think a lot of enterprises will like it either. windows 8 might be the best reason to buy windows 7. AJerman and MFH 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gollux Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Windows 8, makin' your desktop PC work like a Zune... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Nokes Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Windows 8, makin' your desktop PC work like a Zune... That's actually a compliment. ;) siah1214 and ahhell 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted October 29, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted October 29, 2012 Windows 8, makin' your desktop PC work like a Zune... i liked the Zuneif it weren't for the lack of marketing and developers making apps, the Zune probably could have easily crushed the iPod classic/touch jamieakers 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Long live MS-DOS! :D cropcircles and WAQT 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthebear Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I can kind of see why it's compared to Windows 95. Both were big changes to the UI. The only people who are cowards here are the one's not giving it a fair chance. Really? Wow! Then what do you call the people who use the logo of a company's product as their avatar, and rush to defend said product at every turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted October 29, 2012 Member Share Posted October 29, 2012 How soon we forget. 8 is nothing like 95. Not even close. Glassed Silver and Obi-Wan Kenobi 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Gamerz Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 all i say is this !! windows 8 vs windows 7 8 is way faster than 7 7 has a start menu 8 doesn't 8 has a desktop or metro i don't use metro because i use the desktop 90%of the time <snipped> 8 looks like the 360 which 10000 own so for us no big change last if u hate 8 stay with 7 and please stop all the hating posts about 8 please all the fn time theres like thousands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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