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[Rappy]

George Lucas is staying on as Creative Consultant

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excalpius, on 30 October 2012 - 20:44, said:

No need to "fire George". He's clearly handing over the keys to everything. People who know George personally know he would NEVER NEVER NEVER do this unless he was retiring permanently due to age or illness. There is something else going on behind this decision that we don't know yet.

If there are any true journalists left in the US, it's time to do your job and investigate!

damn, sounds like a job for:


For those who are too young to remember hard copy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Copy

[~Johnny]

Rappy, on 30 October 2012 - 20:44, said:

George Lucas is staying on as Creative Consultant

Which is fine by me, does he not do that with the Clone Wars CG series? That seems to be getting on lovely enough.

[Anaron]

HawkMan, on 30 October 2012 - 20:30, said:

Disney, improving... on Star Wars ? .... BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Let's take a look at The Walt Disney company's $4B acquisition of Marvel Entertainment in August 2009. After the acquisition, Marvel Studios (subsidiary of Marvel Entertainment) released Iron Man 2 (2010), Thor (2011), Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), and The Avengers (2012). All of the movies were quite successful and the last one is the third highest-grossing movie of all time.

So, my question to you is: What's so funny?

excalpius, on 30 October 2012 - 20:30, said:

This is a "holy ****" moment in modern entertainment.

ILM being owned by Disney is just as significant as Lucas finally being removed from the Star Wars franchise.

Star Wars can only improve as Lucas hasn't made a good minute of film since he gained complete control of Star Wars filmmaking (the middle of RETURN OF THE JEDI).

ILM is destined for destruction, as Disney has never been able to manage a VFX house successfully...ever.

They acquired Pixar Animation Studios in 2006. Since that acquisition, Pixar has released seven computer-animated films and all of them have done well at the box office.

[Rappy]

[excalpius]

Anaron, on 30 October 2012 - 20:53, said:

They acquired Pixar Animation Studios in 2006. Since that acquisition, Pixar has released seven computer-animated films and all of them have done well at the box office.

Incorrect. CARS 2. And note that all Pixar movies are 5-10 YEARS in development. All of them predate the Disney deal.

Regardless, Pixar remains wholly autonomous. In fact, their creative head (Lasseter) became the head of Disney's creative for these projects. So, while Disney "owns" Pixar, the truth is that Pixar drives Disney creative in many ways now. If Steve Jobs would have lived, I suspect he'd have become the next Chairman of Disney one day. Note also that Jobs bought the ILM animation group and created Pixar so many years ago, so this is probably the personal/professional bridge between Lucas and Disney that led to this deal.

Similarly, Disney isn't executing any control over the Marvel films. They have their own internal plans for the movies and have been driving that very well. Disney is just distributing/marketing/toys, etc.

HOWEVER, with Lucas stepping back to being a Creative Consultant (not even CEO emeritus, etc.) of the new entity, there has to be another story with George behind the scenes. This is going from 100% to 0% in one turn. And that is not like the George Lucas of the past decades.

The big loser is FOX which owns distribution of all past Star Wars movies, etc. [edit: This is also why Disney is going to want to make new Star Wars films, since Fox still owns distribution of the real Star Wars movies, etc.]

[Rappy]

[excalpius]

It's quite intriguing what is not being said in that heavily edited interview. Also, look at everyone's body language. A fascinating turn of events.

Rappy, on 30 October 2012 - 21:04, said:

Note that INDIANA JONES films cannot be made without Steven Spielberg's consent, so I'm sure there have been some very interesting conversations between the legendary Amblin/Dreamworks head and Disney recently...

[Enron]

Wow thats incredible! I can tell Disney is doing this in reaction to Windows 8.

[Rappy]

[+Chicane-UK]

Well I never would have expected this. I guess I'll wait and see what they do with Star Wars - Pixar and Marvel films have been pretty excellent... hell, can't be any worse than Episode 1 that Lucas churned out.

[Anaron]

excalpius, on 30 October 2012 - 21:09, said:

Incorrect. CARS 2. And note that all Pixar movies are 5-10 YEARS in development. All of them predate the Disney deal.

Regardless, Pixar remains wholly autonomous. In fact, their creative head (Lasseter) became the head of Disney's creative for these projects. So, while Disney "owns" Pixar, the truth is that Pixar drives Disney creative in many ways now. If Steve Jobs would have lived, I suspect he'd have become the next Chairman of Disney one day. Note also that Jobs bought the ILM animation group and created Pixar so many years ago, so this is probably the personal/professional bridge between Lucas and Disney that led to this deal.

Similarly, Disney isn't executing any control over the Marvel films. They have their own internal plans for the movies and have been driving that very well. Disney is just distributing/marketing/toys, etc.

HOWEVER, with Lucas stepping back to being a Creative Consultant (not even CEO emeritus, etc.) of the new entity, there has to be another story with George behind the scenes. This is going from 100% to 0% in one turn. And that is not like the George Lucas of the past decades.

The big loser is FOX which owns distribution of all past Star Wars movies, etc. [edit: This is also why Disney is going to want to make new Star Wars films, since Fox still owns distribution of the real Star Wars movies, etc.]

Cars 2 didn't make as much money in the US as WALL-E but it ended up making more money worldwide (see here).

As for Pixar and Marvel, it's true that Disney has allowed both companies to remain creatively autonomous. And judging by what they've released in the years since their respective acquisitions, I'd say they're doing well. This is why I think it's great that Disney has announced its plan to acquire Lucasfilm.

George Lucas seems to have a lot of faith in Kathleen Kennedy. Do you think he's going to step up from his role as creative consultant (for the next Star Wars film)?

[theyarecomingforyou]

Yay!

That is all.

[HawkMan]

Anaron, on 30 October 2012 - 20:53, said:

Let's take a look at The Walt Disney company's $4B acquisition of Marvel Entertainment in August 2009. After the acquisition, Marvel Studios (subsidiary of Marvel Entertainment) released Iron Man 2 (2010), Thor (2011), Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), and The Avengers (2012). All of the movies were quite successful and the last one is the third highest-grossing movie of all time.

So, my question to you is: What's so funny?

on the flip side
Cars 2...

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They acquired Pixar Animation Studios in 2006. Since that acquisition, Pixar has released seven computer-animated films and all of them have done well at the box office.

If we can get Avengers and Pirates Quality out of it, but maybe a little higher age rating, then yeah, awesome, the problem is that with disney you never know what you're gonna get untill you have it.

BUT whatever happens, more star Wars is always great. question is if 7 will be based off of his old notes and ideas, EU, or something else.

I may be a ****** for thinking so, but I so hope they don't go with EU and ditch the whole EU thing just to kick it in the nuts of all the EU fans and show them where the real star Wars is. And I'm saying that as a person that loves EU, well most of it anyway. And as cool as the Thrawn trilogy would be as a movie, I don't think it belongs in the Star Wars storyline. besides the chiss are ugly

[Syanide]

Copy pasting my opinion on this:

I'm okay with this (just in case anyone at Disney is worried about what I think, there you have it, go on), as long as they pass it over to someone capable and talented. The best Star Wars movie wasn't directed by Lucas anyway. Let's just hope they'll cater to the movie instead of the marketing department.