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[color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]The UK court of appeal has reprimanded Apple over the wording of the statement on its website acknowledging that Samsung did not infringe the iPad tablet's registered design, and ordered it to put an altered statement on its homepage

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i figured they were going to have to change it after i read it. I thought it sounded too much like an advertisement rather than an apology.
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Astoundingly arrogant. The original statement showed how Apple thought it was a big joke. Glad the judges are cracking down on their nonsense.
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Fantastic (Y)

Well done UK.
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Good. I hope they hold Apple in contempt as well.
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[quote name='technikal' timestamp='1351774763' post='595289239']
Astoundingly arrogant. The original statement showed how Apple thought it was a big joke. Glad the judges are cracking down on their nonsense.
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Well in all fairness, the original statement just said the same thing the judges themselves did. :)

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I think the part about the German and American courts finding that Samsung infringed went too far, but the rest seems perfectly in line with the request by the judge. As Apple's lawyers stated: the purpose of the notice was to dispel commercial uncertainty; not to grovel.

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LOL
that is all :D

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Apple has become real sleazy.
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[quote name='Neu B' timestamp='1351776521' post='595289299']
Apple has become real sleazy.
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Has become? They've been sleazy for last 2 decades.
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14 days to update a webpage? no wonder apple has to take down their entire store to release new products </s>
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[quote name='HawkMan' timestamp='1351775279' post='595289261']
Well in all fairness, the original statement just said the same thing the judges themselves did. :)[/quote]
Exactly. What else did they expect Apple to put online.

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[quote name='.Neo' timestamp='1351777984' post='595289347']
Exactly. What else did they expect Apple to put online.
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Exactly what they were told to do, and not all the extra stuff to make it look like they're being picked on. As soon as I read it, it was obvious they were going to get into trouble again.

Apple need to learn to do what they're told. Unlike the US legal system, ours isn't controlled by corporations.
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[quote name='FloatingFatMan' timestamp='1351778355' post='595289369']Unlike the US legal system, ours isn't controlled by corporations.
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If only the rest of the world could be as enlightened as the British. All we can do is strive I guess, and hope one day we'll gain a fraction of what your people have. ;)

Anyway, from what I've been seeing the past few months it's obvious the company is a mess. Apple really needs to sort itself out.

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[quote name='FloatingFatMan' timestamp='1351778355' post='595289369']
Exactly what they were told to do, and not all the extra stuff to make it look like they're being picked on. As soon as I read it, it was obvious they were going to get into trouble again.

Apple need to learn to do what they're told. Unlike the US legal system, ours isn't controlled by corporations.
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Oh, how I wish, they would get the corporations the **** OUT of our government. We've got more guns than you can point a rifle at, but I'm more afraid of our government will have me arrested for violating a EULA or jailbreaking a device I ACTUALLY paid money for...

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If I was Apple, I'd just refuse.

They have more than enough cash on hand to pay any fines.. and the UK Market isn't that big to begin with.

Even if they are in the wrong, you don't make a company carry an advertisement, which is what it basically is, for another company.

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[quote name='Ryoken' timestamp='1351782076' post='595289501']
If I was Apple, I'd just refuse.

They have more than enough cash on hand to pay any fines.. and the UK Market isn't that big to begin with.

Even if they are in the wrong, you don't make a company carry an advertisement, which is what it basically is, for another company.
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It is an advert yes, for Apple's tech, it's a link hidden at the bottom of a page, the link won't be seen or clicked and if someone does click it they are met with two lines of apology and the rest is just rhetoric.

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[quote name='Ryoken' timestamp='1351782076' post='595289501']
If I was Apple, I'd just refuse.

They have more than enough cash on hand to pay any fines.. and the UK Market isn't that big to begin with.

Even if they are in the wrong, you don't make a company carry an advertisement, which is what it basically is, for another company.
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Failing to comply with a court order is not a matter of "losing the UK market". The consequences of being in contempt of court are not the sort of thing Apple management really want to contemplate, seeing as that can include jail time.

Maybe it's wrong to force one company to advertise another, but it was equally wrong for one company to accuse another of copying when they didn't. What's worse? A little ad or a billion dollars fine? Maybe the UK court should have fine their asses as much as that kangaroo court that Ko presided over, fined Samsung.

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[quote name='Neu B' timestamp='1351776521' post='595289299'] Apple has become real sleazy. [/quote]

nothing new, typical apple

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[quote name='Ryoken' timestamp='1351782076' post='595289501']
If I was Apple, I'd just refuse.

They have more than enough cash on hand to pay any fines.. and the UK Market isn't that big to begin with.

Even if they are in the wrong, you don't make a company carry an advertisement, which is what it basically is, for another company.
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So, if you have enough money, it's ok to break the law and/or ignore a legal ruling? That seems like a great way to run a company....

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Good, I'm glad the courts have shown their teeth. The incredible smug arrogance of Apple comes across just as badly there as it does in every other part of their business. Every time I read an article about Apple and patents I use my Galaxy S with a smile :laugh:

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[quote name='neufuse' timestamp='1351776943' post='595289317']
14 days to update a webpage? no wonder apple has to take down their entire store to release new products </s>
[/quote]14 days is a fairly normal turn around rate for the agile cycle. One of the major rules of agile development is that you don't rush to push out changes. If you do, mistakes happen. On Neowin, we always make fun of the programmer who makes a simple mistake. Not following the procedures put in place leads to those seemingly simple mistakes.

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Yea, Apple. When they are dishing it out, they expect others to take it. But when someone comes down on them, they act like babies. Ev0en when they win, it isnt good enough and they go back and ask for more money after the verdict/award is given.

They should of done what they were told in the first place. This just shows what winers they are and makes them look even worse.

[quote name='Ryoken' timestamp='1351782076' post='595289501']
If I was Apple, I'd just refuse.

They have more than enough cash on hand to pay any fines.. and the UK Market isn't that big to begin with.

Even if they are in the wrong, you don't make a company carry an advertisement, which is what it basically is, for another company.
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So what, you think Apple is above the law and shouldnt be held accountable?

Whether it is a big or small market, Apple needs to abide by the same laws as everyone else. If the courts would of let this go, then it would send a message to others that they can ignore the law a well. And Apple always wines about the law and how others are stealing their ideas...but when it comes down to obeying the laws themselves, its a diff story.

ANd it is NOT an advert. It is a statement saying they were wrong for suing Samsung. Its not like Apple has to post links on their site to Samsung products.
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[quote name='ILikeTobacco' timestamp='1351789936' post='595289835']
14 days is a fairly normal turn around rate for the agile cycle. One of the major rules of agile development is that you don't rush to push out changes. If you do, mistakes happen. On Neowin, we always make fun of the programmer who makes a simple mistake. Not following the procedures put in place leads to those seemingly simple mistakes.
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Why are we discussing agile cycle and development time? It's a plain HTML page that doesn't even use their corporate template with a few paragraphs of text on a centre-aligned page. It could be updated in ten minutes and the copy could be written and signed off within one business day. This is Apple throwing themselves around like a stroppy toddler because for once they're not getting their own way.

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Glad to see this happen. Apple acted incredibly arrogant in this case.

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