win8 My mom loves windows 8!

[giantpotato]

From the point of being hated by the average everyday user 8 is absolutely the next Vista.

Mark my words.. The average user after 1 months, using Windows 8 will NOT know the start button is hidden in the bottom left corner.

won't be surprised if windows 8 fail at being popular: you can't ignore people impressions, and be surprised that average user refuse to use it.

For the average user, the Modern UI is cumbersome and counter-intuitive on a traditional desktop.

These are just some quotes I saved from members making some predictions about the "average user" and Windows 8.

I wonder what they have to say now.

[MS Bob 11]

That would be the worst idea since.... ever. Please explain to me why Windows 8 isn't any more "advanced" as Windows 7 is? Because, my dual monitor workstation tells me otherwise.... But if you're going to cry about all the depreciated (You know what that word means, right!?) features Microsoft has removed, then don't. If you really want to hang on to archaic paradigms, than maybe Linux is better for you. Removing old, done with code is a win-win for everyone.

Let's see last time "depreciate" didn't mean the same as "deprecate". Learn your English first, then learn how to be polite and not question others' English, then learn usability, then learn to spot differences in the two menus that you can't seem to notice, then I will explain to you why Windows 8's UI is worse. :p

[Tha Bloo Monkee]

the DO real WORK comes from this: normally you read very fast... but the brain doesn't pay too much attention to it until a second view, so, DO WORK is the first thing you well understand, then if you read again, DO real WORK appears... it's just a bit of subliminal message. If I would write like a teen, then I would write like other people whose words get either censored ***** or are just unintelligible to be read.

lol what is wrong with you?

[IntegralDerivative]

He's the delusionist that believes that Windows XP is better for workflow than Windows 7. There is no reaching that level of craziness.

And 8 will be 10000000x better.

[georgevella]

the DO real WORK comes from this: normally you read very fast... but the brain doesn't pay too much attention to it until a second view, so, DO WORK is the first thing you well understand, then if you read again, DO real WORK appears... it's just a bit of subliminal message. If I would write like a teen, then I would write like other people whose words get either censored ***** or are just unintelligible to be read.

Oh get over yourself. You should re-evaluate your capabilities if your work flow is affected so much by a glorified start menu.

[Zlain]

Some people does indeed far more than just browsing and cheking email... some people DO real WORK.

I use Matlab for my studies and I like Windows 8. Oh wait, your arrogance wouldn't call that real work either.

[Arceles]

I use Matlab for my studies and I like Windows 8. Oh wait, your arrogance wouldn't call that real work either.

Allright man, if you use matlab you use it like a pro right? I mean,. using the command line, I use it daily basis on my PhD, guess what? I just type matlab on my beloved start menu and bam,. matlab runs, then again look into data for using it into any matrix, don't have to cover the whole screen with the start screen to initiate another program for copying it (but screw it, I normally run it on the grid, with bash), do you use labview? JUMPLIST... that works wonders.

They guys that don't understand the "DO real WORK" get over it, funny though... only Dot Matrix actually grabbed the irony of it and used it quite nicely.

Don't misunderstand me, windows 8 is a "nice" OS, with a proper start menu, that is... problem is saying "my mom can..." etc, any person CAN actually use it, that's not the problem here, the problem is, some of us got downgraded with the decision of such inefficient alternative to launch programs, then when we do the things right then we are suddenly "unable to bear change" I really hope all of you guys do research like I do in order to truly find change in other far more important areas where IMPROVEMENT is needed, not the other way around.

Enough said, refused to reply other answers here because I knew none of them would properly justify with other thing that "is better because is better" when it is not.

[Zlain]

Allright man, if you use matlab you use it like a pro right? I mean,. using the command line, I use it daily basis on my PhD, guess what? I just type matlab on my beloved start menu and bam,. matlab runs, then again look into data for using it into any matrix, don't have to cover the whole screen with the start screen to initiate another program for copying it (but screw it, I normally run it on the grid, with bash), do you use labview? JUMPLIST... that works wonders.

They guys that don't understand the "DO real WORK" get over it, funny though... only Dot Matrix actually grabbed the irony of it and used it quite nicely.

Don't misunderstand me, windows 8 is a "nice" OS, with a proper start menu, that is... problem is saying "my mom can..." etc, any person CAN actually use it, that's not the problem here, the problem is, some of us got downgraded with the decision of such inefficient alternative to launch programs, then when we do the things right then we are suddenly "unable to bear change" I really hope all of you guys do research like I do in order to truly find change in other far more important areas where IMPROVEMENT is needed, not the other way around.

Enough said, refused to reply other answers here because I knew none of them would properly justify with other thing that "is better because is better" when it is not.

I don't get what you mean?? And yeah, I am doing research too lol. Just only at a masters level. If you pin the programmes, it is the same thing, Thats the only thing that is different for me. Previously, I did use quickstart icons, but again, I guess pinning icons is an expanded (and better) change of that. All my main programes are pinned such that when I need to work, I never need to go into Modern UI. Its only when I need to open some obscure programme that I may need to. The button click, rather than having a start button, its just a bit more into the corner, so the action itself hasn't changed, nor the speed of doing it. I think people just got used to having the start menu there and being assured everything was there.

The only major difference is locating settings, but I just pinned the control panel to my start bar and that solved that.

I also rechanged all the programme settings so that pdf files etc opened in the desktop versions (i.e. I don't use pdf app at all). The apps aren't great atm but I do use a few from time to time - at the moment they are more of a leisure then of any real use.

[Kpssst]

Allright man, if you use matlab you use it like a pro right? I mean,. using the command line, I use it daily basis on my PhD, guess what? I just type matlab on my beloved start menu and bam,. matlab runs, then again look into data for using it into any matrix, don't have to cover the whole screen with the start screen to initiate another program for copying it (but screw it, I normally run it on the grid, with bash), do you use labview? JUMPLIST... that works wonders.

Jumplists are still in Windows 8. You can still hit the Windows key, start typing "matlab" and hit enter to open.

[siah1214]

Jumplists are still in Windows 8. You can still hit the Windows key, start typing "matlab" and hit enter to open.

Stop rationalizing with this nitwit. If he can't take 5 minutes to learn that none of the workflows have changed, there's no helping him.

[Arceles]

Jumplists are still in Windows 8. You can still hit the Windows key, start typing "matlab" and hit enter to open.

It's more like win 7 where you could just select the arrow and show a list of recent items of each program, and also in win 7 you could pin them, in order to do the same in win8 I would need to pin the programs in the superbar... which I particularly don't like because they would be quite a lot.

And Mr. siah1214, I'm gonna give you a like because you try to be funny using nitwit, just because I feel like doing it in order to show you how much I care about your comments :D

[+Warwagon MVC]

These are just some quotes I saved from members making some predictions about the "average user" and Windows 8.

I wonder what they have to say now.

Does his mom know the start button is in the bottom left? or is she using the windows key or the charms bar on the side like the demo taught her?

[thomastmc]

My nickname has been Windows 8 for a long time. It's an LSD reference from college.

Sorry for the confusion...

(Had to make a joke :))

[HawkMan]

Does his mom know the start button is in the bottom left? or is she using the windows key or the charms bar on the side like the demo taught her?

The demo told her to move her mouse to all corners. S it told her to use he lower left start button to.

[NEVER85]

Yeah? You must have a very intensive job then... /s

Or you're just not very bright. I'm leaning towards that.

[nekrosoft13]

Some people does indeed far more than just browsing and cheking email... some people DO real WORK.

yap, i did went over to my folks house and showed my dad windows 8, let him try and use it for hour or two. he basically said don't ever install this on my pc

[HawkMan]

sure he did. your explanation sounds very believable and accurate, not at all like you just made it up.

[COKid]

yap, i did went over to my folks house and showed my dad windows 8, let him try and use it for hour or two. he basically said don't ever install this on my pc

That may be. For me, Microsoft fanboy that I am, it took me about a week of use before I really got comfortable with Windows 8. For instance, it took me a while to figure out how to clean up the App list (not the Start Screen) of all the shortcuts that I didn't need. Other things too. But now, I'd never go back to Windows 7.

The learning curve is different for everyone, but I'd say an hour or two might not have been long enough for your pops.

[theyarecomingforyou]

I bought my Dad the Windows 8 upgrade for his birthday and he's loving it so far. His computer is connected to a 47" 3DTV in the lounge and he uses a wireless keyboard and mouse. The new Start Screen is much better suited to using in that scenario than the typical Start Menu. Oh, and he's already managed to get Solitaire to crash.

[linsook]

I bought my Dad the Windows 8 upgrade for his birthday and he's loving it so far. His computer is connected to a 47" 3DTV in the lounge and he uses a wireless keyboard and mouse. The new Start Screen is much better suited to using in that scenario than the typical Start Menu. Oh, and he's already managed to get Solitaire to crash.

it was ok on my TV. It only became great when I finally increased the size of everything in the ease of access settings from this:

to this

Is it like this for your fathers' tv as well? My usage of the start screen has increased but I still spend the bulk of my time on the desktop.

[Xilo]

Some people does indeed far more than just browsing and cheking email... some people DO real WORK.

Real work is where Windows 8 completely fails at.

[HawkMan]

Real work is where Windows 8 completely fails at.

Explain.

[pmrd]

Real work is where Windows 8 completely fails at.

Your comment is where you failed, I'm a professional programmer I have tons of Visual Studio and tons of other windows open all the time the start menu is the greatest thing ever, I can organize all my programs in groups which makes searching for them a lot better.

I'm pretty sure you're not doing "real work" or you never tried Windows 8 to make an ignorant comment like that

[srbeen]

Windows 8 is windows 7 on steroids. Well, at least with a few tweaks mainly provided by the free classic shell... Plus it was $15 for win8 +MCE, which is the absolutely cheapest OS MS ever put out. Even at $40 for key which will upgrade from XP to Win 7... still cheaper than windows 7 is!

I can only shudder to think what 'spyware' comes directly from MS now. Its identical to win 7 if you bypass metroUI, except much snappier. Drivers are issues, but not too bad with zadig helping out. Any gamers should avoid for now however... game developers don't like it at all.

[Xilo]

the start menu is the greatest thing ever

So, you're agreeing that Windows 7 and previous is better due to the start menu. Thanks. :)