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[Bridgetf]

What's up with Microsoft telling us what to communicate with? Messenger, no longer.........only skype? Freedom? When YOU no longer have the messenger, I will find another similar source. YOU will not tell me HOW I'm going to communicate. This will have a negative impact on YOU!

[Rohdekill]

Bridgetf, on 22 December 2012 - 12:36, said:

What's up with Microsoft telling us what to communicate with? Messenger, no longer.........only skype? Freedom? When YOU no longer have the messenger, I will find another similar source. YOU will not tell me HOW I'm going to communicate. This will have a negative impact on YOU!

They aren't telling you what to communicate with. Messenger will be gone, Use what you want. No one is telling you that you MUST use Skype.

[wotsit]

Having now switched, Microsoft appear to have gotten foolishly ahead of themselves.

There's basic WLM functionality just not in Skype, such as nudges. offline Facebook messaging, and Hotmail e-mail notifications.

hmmmmmm - odd decision!

[n_K]

wotsit, on 03 February 2013 - 14:30, said:

Having now switched, Microsoft appear to have gotten foolishly ahead of themselves.

There's basic WLM functionality just not in Skype, such as nudges. offline Facebook messaging, and Hotmail e-mail notifications.

hmmmmmm - odd decision!

Nudges are annoying.
Facebook can **** off out completely.
Hotmail email notifications, meh, get outlook or another email client and it'll replace that.

[TPreston]

Id rather see a consumer lync service, lync 2013 owns.

[YouWhat]

The problem I have with skype is there is no A-Patch for it, and according to their site, they are not going to be doing one for it either

[wotsit]

Can't seem to send files either, let alone view together?

[Javik]

As a user I'm quite happy using Facebook for my communication. From a business POV however I wouldn't like a scenario in which my data is under someone else's control. I can't see Facebook replacing most business email any time soon.

[JaredFrost]

wotsit, on 03 February 2013 - 14:30, said:

Having now switched, Microsoft appear to have gotten foolishly ahead of themselves.

There's basic WLM functionality just not in Skype, such as nudges. offline Facebook messaging, and Hotmail e-mail notifications.

hmmmmmm - odd decision!

This was my opinion on the matter the whole time, the complete lack of features in Skype it'll only serve to push people to more
mature clients after they try Skype instead of WLM.

But I am also sure there will be a hack to change the client ID for the last version of WLM to allow it to logon, it should be a simple
enough hexedit to change the client ID, but that will only delay WLMs shutdown, but it'll give those people using WLM and MS more
time to get Skype's features closer in line to what they expect from the WLM service currently.

Of course they could pull a Windows 8 and tell us less features and basic look/functionality is better and that we're wrong for not
liking it.

[LUTZIFER]

JaredFrost, on 03 February 2013 - 17:04, said:

This was my opinion on the matter the whole time, the complete lack of features in Skype it'll only serve to push people to more
mature clients after they try Skype instead of WLM.

But I am also sure there will be a hack to change the client ID for the last version of WLM to allow it to logon, it should be a simple
enough hexedit to change the client ID, but that will only delay WLMs shutdown, but it'll give those people using WLM and MS more
time to get Skype's features closer in line to what they expect from the WLM service currently.

Of course they could pull a Windows 8 and tell us less features and basic look/functionality is better and that we're wrong for not
liking it.

They'll move to a more "mature" client? Becuz Skype doesn't do the kiddie stuff that WLM does, like winks and nudges? That's hilarious.

[Belazor]

LUTZIFER, on 03 February 2013 - 17:22, said:

They'll move to a more "mature" client? Becuz Skype doesn't do the kiddie stuff that WLM does, like winks and nudges? That's hilarious.

BUT MA GIANT PURPLZ FONT, I NEEDS IT!!1111

Git ta fook.

The fact that I can see up to 10x more actual text in conversations without being distracted by backgrounds or flashy fonts is one of the primary reasons why I support this change.

[FloatingFatMan]

Belazor, on 03 February 2013 - 17:26, said:

BUT MA GIANT PURPLZ FONT, I NEEDS IT!!1111

Git ta fook.

The fact that I can see up to 10x more actual text in conversations without being distracted by backgrounds or flashy fonts is one of the primary reasons why I support this change.

Skype's contact grouping is almost non-existent compared to WLM's. Without that functionality, I just won't use Skype.

[JaredFrost]

LUTZIFER, on 03 February 2013 - 17:22, said:

They'll move to a more "mature" client? Becuz Skype doesn't do the kiddie stuff that WLM does, like winks and nudges? That's hilarious.

I didn't mention those features at all, now did I, the only deal breakers for me are really just offline messaging, remote assistance and file transfering.

And since you mentioned 'becuz' I wouldn't mind seeing a built in spellcheck added.

Belazor, on 03 February 2013 - 17:26, said:

BUT MA GIANT PURPLZ FONT, I NEEDS IT!!1111

Git ta fook.

The fact that I can see up to 10x more actual text in conversations without being distracted by backgrounds or flashy fonts is one of the primary reasons why I support this change.

I don't know who you've been talking to on WLM that sets their background images and text like that, but that's a class of friends issue
And a plus on the client, since it actually allows you to set crap like that.

[Mr Spoon]

People still use MSN?

[Belazor]

JaredFrost, on 03 February 2013 - 17:35, said:

I didn't mention those features at all, now did I, the only deal breakers for me are really just offline messaging, remote assistance and file transfering. And since you mentioned 'becuz' I wouldn't mind seeing a built in spellcheck added.

Offline messaging on WLM is crap compared to Skype, and you also cannot send files to contacts that are offline. That's a deal breaker for me.

Remote Assistance works better if it's done via TeamViewer or similar apps
Getting WLM's RA to work is a pain in the arse.

JaredFrost, on 03 February 2013 - 17:35, said:

I don't know who you've been talking to on WLM that sets their background images and text like that, but that's a class of friends issue And a plus on the client, since it actually allows you to set crap like that.

How the baws is that a plus on the client? It has no purpose being in a chat client, and certainly not displayed to other people.

FloatingFatMan, on 03 February 2013 - 17:34, said:

Skype's contact grouping is almost non-existent compared to WLM's. Without that functionality, I just won't use Skype.

Really?

I can create new contact groups, just like WLM. I don't see a single difference