DocM Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Original thread on Proton launch failure - https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096915-proton-rocket-fails-2-commsats-lost/page__fromsearch__1 Catastrophic stage explosion - http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1210/23breezem/#.UJmDWYl5nTo Rocket explosion raises worries over space debrisA Russian Breeze M rocket stage, left with loaded fuel tanks after an August launch failure, exploded in orbit Oct. 16, raising concerns of the U.S. military, NASA and global satellite operators on the lookout for collision threats from hundreds of new space debris fragments. ? The Breeze M stage violently disintegrated some time Oct. 16, dispersing debris in an arc around Earth encompassing orbital zones populated by the International Space Station and numerous communications, scientific, and military satellites. The upper stage launched Aug. 6 on a Proton rocket, and its job was to place Indonesia's Telkom 3 and Russia's Express MD2 communications satellites into geostationary orbit 22,000 miles above Earth's equator. But the Breeze M failed at the start of the third of four planned engine burns, leaving the vehicle and its payloads well short of their targeted altitude. At the time of the mishap, the Breeze M still had more than half of its hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide propellants in its primary and auxiliary fuel tanks. The substances are hypergolic, meaning they combust when coming in contact with each other. With much of the propellants left on-board the Breeze M, any contact would have generated an explosion. Air Force Lt. Col. Monica Matoush, a Pentagon spokesperson, said the U.S. military was tracking debris from the Breeze M breakup. The Defense Department's joint functional component command for space, known by the acronym JFCC-Space, monitors objects in orbit and issues collision alerts to U.S. government, international and commercial satellite owners. > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravensky Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 You would think after the third explosion of the same orbiter at the same stage they would take a closer look at what is causing the issue and fix it? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Short answer: their quality control has gone to Hell. No easy, fast or cheap fixes plus a lot of their hardware is outdated. There were interesting conversations on the ISS when SpaceX's Dragon arrived. Seems the Russian crew was shocked at the modern systems, fit/finish and its size - a whole Soyuz return capsule being able to fit inside Dragon with room to spare and Dragon eventually carrying >2x as many crewmembers (7 vs 3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Nokes Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 You would think after the third explosion of the same orbiter at the same stage they would take a closer look at what is causing the issue and fix it? O_o Maybe I read the story wrong...but I thought it said that it failed at the third stage, not for the third time. Or have they tried this launch twice before with failures at the same stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 You would think after the third explosion of the same orbiter at the same stage they would take a closer look at what is causing the issue and fix it? O_o In Soviet Russia.... You don't fix problem... Problem fix you! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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