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#61 Nothing Here

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:45

Best thing you can do is stay the hell out of the domestic politics forum. Seriously. Neowin is a much friendlier place outside of there.


Now that's a crock. Neowin hasn't been friendly in a very long time. I post in the help sections and I get demeaned. Now that I see how Neowin works, I will give out what I have gotten.


#62 Javik

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 12:29

As much as I admire what you're trying to say Intrinsica, not all staff members seem to be as fair as you. If you want to look for something telling, a thread was started with something like "Are you happy about your iPad being obsolete". When the same kind of thread was started about the Surface, it was closed almost immediately. There's a very obvious pro Microsoft bias here. Not all staff buy into it by any means, but a lot do. And a lot of reports that I make of trolling in threads about Google stuff do get completely ignored.

#63 Nothing Here

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 12:36

As much as I admire what you're trying to say Intrinsica, not all staff members seem to be as fair as you. If you want to look for something telling, a thread was started with something like "Are you happy about your iPad being obsolete". When the same kind of thread was started about the Surface, it was closed almost immediately. There's a very obvious pro Microsoft bias here. Not all staff buy into it by any means, but a lot do. And a lot of reports that I make of trolling in threads about Google stuff do get completely ignored.


I agree with you about that Javik.

#64 Damien R.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 16:43

This..., I prefer to stay out of politics cuz most of it's BS anyways....


That's an area I have never visited and never intend to

#65 Glassed Silver

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 17:02

That's an area I have never visited and never intend to

Smart boy.

Unfortunately I'm way too interested and enthusiastic about politics and generally care about conversing and reading about US politics, which a forum with lots of US members is ideal for.

Problem is, I also get easily annoyed by bad habits, lack of respect and other unfavorable traits very common in that area of Neowin, so I'm always torn/hesitant or angry. :laugh:

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 20:24

I subscribe so I don't have to deal with ads, and I guess I don't mind contributing a tiny fraction of my worth to a website I like to browse. The bonus forums are a perk but I don't really do much in them. :0

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 21:40

Blue badge ftw :D

#68 Shaun N.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:49

Blue badge ftw :D


Great badge but it means nothing since warwagon has also had one of these

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:21

I subscribe because I have gotten so much from this site over the years and like to give something back. I don't post too often, but I spend probably 90% of my time online (which is a lot) here and when I do post, I try to only post something helpful pertaining to the topic. I'm currently on my 4th year of subscribing and don't plan on stopping soon :)

Blue badge ftw :D

I've got to agree with that one!

Edit: I need to get my sig badge working properly again...

#70 Steven P.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:14

We gave out a lot of subs up until around a year ago, so most of the current subscribers actually paid for it :p

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:19

While the badge doesn't mean much to me, I'm happy to continue subscribing just to avoid the ads

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:46

I have been a member for ten years now. And I have been a subscriber a few years back. Maybe it's nostalgia, but I remember the old Neowin as a much friendlier place. I used to love Neowin. Then there were a lot of tech geeks sharing desktops and lots of tech information. The Mac and Linux sections were more prominent en better moderated and kept up to date.

Yes I know, the name of this place is neo*Win*.

But Linux news has almost completely fallen by the side and there are trolls abound in the Linux section of the forum. Then there is, IMHO, the complete overexposure on the front page of everything Microsoft. Taken to the absurd height that I am told that a new packaging of Microsoft Office, not the release of the software itself, but the leaking of the image of the package, is news worthy of a write up on the Neowin front page.

Btw I use Windows 7 and have bought Windows 8. I do not dislike Microsoft or Windows but with the attitude of this site the last few years, boy, its tempting!

I still follow the tech news, in that Chris Pirillo is a great source, but I visit Neowin just a few times a week now. I have no hope of things getting better. It's not my site and its up to the owners what they want to do with it. It just means Neowin will lose me more and more as a regular visitor.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 16:39

I actually think Neowin has gotten friendlier over the years. Or maybe I've just become desensitised to the nonsense that does go on sometimes. :rofl:

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 17:03

As much as I admire what you're trying to say Intrinsica, not all staff members seem to be as fair as you. If you want to look for something telling, a thread was started with something like "Are you happy about your iPad being obsolete". When the same kind of thread was started about the Surface, it was closed almost immediately. There's a very obvious pro Microsoft bias here. Not all staff buy into it by any means, but a lot do. And a lot of reports that I make of trolling in threads about Google stuff do get completely ignored.


I'm going to call bull **** on this. Check out ANY MS thread and it's full of pointless and blatant trolling. NOTHING is ever done about it. Don't even get me started on John and his "articles".
If threads are going to moderated, it needs to happen evenly across the board.

#75 articuno1au

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 17:26

As much as I admire what you're trying to say Intrinsica, not all staff members seem to be as fair as you. If you want to look for something telling, a thread was started with something like "Are you happy about your iPad being obsolete". When the same kind of thread was started about the Surface, it was closed almost immediately. There's a very obvious pro Microsoft bias here. Not all staff buy into it by any means, but a lot do. And a lot of reports that I make of trolling in threads about Google stuff do get completely ignored.

I agree with the sentiment but not the example. That thread was intended as troll bait >.> There is something of a pro-Microsoft moderation policy here, but it's greatly increased by the amount of hardcore trolling against Microsoft here.. /shrug

(To preface the following, a forum is 99% about it's community. If the community is a pain in the arse, the forum is not going to be a fun place to be >.> So yeah, I'm railing against the community as much as the moderation direction.)

Honestly, I am just sick of all the people calling out Windows 8 (and I don't think I am alone..). Everyone who uses it knows that they not everyone loves it, but I'm ****ing sick of people coming and telling us AGAIN how much you hate it.

It's gotten to the point of narcissism. There's a member on here who has a user tag like: "Windows 8 (With start 8 OTHERWISE UNUSABLE)". There's a half dozen members who have said things like "We need to keep pointing out how **** it is otherwise Microsoft will think it's ok". It's like they think this forum is Microsoft's user feedback forum.. There are other members running from thread to thread saying the same thing repeatedly and not engaging in a discussion; but instead continuing to fire off cliches with little interest in discussing it and a lot of interest in just getting their **** out there.

I originally came to Neowin after cracking the ****s with another tech forum because their journalists had lost the plot. I stayed because I found intelligent people with different opinions who could justify them with something other than "**** YOU MICROSOFT BOY". Unfortunately this isn't the case anymore. The people interested in serious debate have been driven away by the stupidity on the forums (or occasionally dragged into it) and the moderators have all responded differently with differing and inconsistent reactions.

Whilst there are a collection of decent and dedicated mods, there have been numerous occurrences where in their actions have been markedly inconsistent or disingenuous. This is compounded by a self review system that is markedly against the posters appealing moderation actions (by way of mods all (ha) being friends or the global mods being busy/uncaring about the request/query).

These are issues I raised a number of times and got nowhere with. After a particularly pointed statement by my oh so subtle self, someone asked if I hated the place why I didn't just leave. I subbed about 5 minutes later :\ I subbed to support the site and to make my position on my support known.

I want a "home" where I can talk to like minded people about technical and interesting things. I want to learn from other peoples opinions and experiences and I want somewhere I can ask questions and get serious feedback. Neowin isn't really that place anymore, but at the moment I blame Windows 8 (and the members who can't pull their heads out of their asses) and hope that in a couple of months things will sort themselves out.

Would I sub again? Perhaps, but only to support Neobond and the site. All I really gain from my subscription is the ability to edit my posts for an extended time after posting (I tend to clean up my posts after posting).

I just hope Neowin (the community that is) comes around and gets back to what it was before the retards gained a divisive target to call out with their loud and repetitive voices :\

In b4 someone calls me pro8.

Edited by articuno1au, 11 November 2012 - 17:31.