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#91 +Matthew S.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:27

Erm....

Our company uses Windows Server 2003 as a workstation os...


#92 Nashy

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:49

I hate Windows 8. But that's fine, I'll get used to it, as we all will.

To the people saying "Why didn't they give us a choice". It's simple. They want to get rid of the desktop UI completely. This is the start of the transition to a life after start. Had to start somewhere.

#93 68k

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:51

I never would have if it wasn't for Start8, and enabling direct-to-desktop at boot.

#94 OP Shasoosh

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 17:34

After removing Windows 8 yesterday and going back to Windows 7 I felt like updating this thread.

I hate it! I figured that out pretty fast but needed to hate it in such extent to backup all my stuff and re install Windows 7

* Metro - The all idea seems stupid to me. Every thing is so big like it was customized for the visually impaired
* UAC - Disable it and loose Metro (that's fine) plus you'll get all kind of strange behaviors when it's completely off
* Slow Internet - People might argue on that one but the fact is that torrents were really really slow on my Windows 8 machine. Gone back to 7, Maximum bandwidth all over right out of the box.

I'm sure that a lot of people are happy with their machine, but right now 7 feels like home.

#95 PGHammer

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 19:04

I hate Windows 8. But that's fine, I'll get used to it, as we all will.

To the people saying "Why didn't they give us a choice". It's simple. They want to get rid of the desktop UI completely. This is the start of the transition to a life after start. Had to start somewhere.


Getting rid of the Start menu didn't get rid of the desktop UI one iota.

I can tell you exactly how many Win32 DESKTOP applications actually CARE that the Start menu is gone, even though ALL of their installers refer to it - exactly none.

Users care about the Start menu; applications, and their installers, do not.

Taskbar pinning is still there - the Superbar is still there. Neither feature depends on the Start menu.

Here's another surprise - Win32 games care not a whit about the Start menu, either. (Again, all the installers refer to it - the games themselves could care less.)

The Start menu is like Program Manager (or even File Manager) from the days of Windows 3.x/NT 3.x - a dead duck.

Surprisingly, Windows 7 (not 8) was the beginning of the end for the Start menu - exactly how many new features, or improvements, did the Start menu get with 7? (And how much had the Start menu been complained about - since XP alone?)

Shasoosh - was this a desktop or portable that you had installed Windows 8 on? Which bitness? And what torrent client?

#96 francescob

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 19:20

The user, the late user, was only partly correct. He *was* obsolete. But so is the Operating System, the entity he worshiped. Any Operating system, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Start buttons, Program Managers and Reversi (except in Nebraska), that operating system is obsolete. A case to be filed under "M" for Metro - in The Twilight Zone.

#97 OP Shasoosh

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:32

@PGHammer It's a desktop.
Regarding the torrent client, I tried them all but mainly Vuze and uTorrent, I had 6 month to play around with it and I always felt that something is off (60%-70% of the speed I should be getting). After a while I've realized that I'm spending more and more time on Lion (I'm dual booting) which is kinda ok because in the past 6 month I've developed at home a lot more than I used to :).
On Lion I got the same speed I'm use to so I knew the connection isn't the problem.

#98 cork1958

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:09

Could not agree with OP more and that is EXACTLY why Winodws 8 sucks for so many every day users!!

Having to install a 3rd party app for the stupid start menu is absolutely idiotic!!

I've adjusted to Windows 8 some what, considering I don't have it on any of my 8 computers, but from working on other people's brand new systems, I've got the hang of it. Have worked on several Windows 8 machines just long enough to down grade them to Windows 7 mostly!!

I definitely WILL NOT be upgrading any of my machines any time soon, so here's to hoping Windows 7 last as long, or longer than XP!!

#99 blade1269

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 20:26

If you're looking for a free replacement for the Start Button, I'd recommend ClassicShell. I haven't had any problems with it when I use Windows 8 (which is maybe once an hour a week... I still will go into Windows 7 as that's where all my work is really done.)

http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/


This!

#100 PGHammer

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 20:38

@PGHammer It's a desktop.
Regarding the torrent client, I tried them all but mainly Vuze and uTorrent, I had 6 month to play around with it and I always felt that something is off (60%-70% of the speed I should be getting). After a while I've realized that I'm spending more and more time on Lion (I'm dual booting) which is kinda ok because in the past 6 month I've developed at home a lot more than I used to :).
On Lion I got the same speed I'm use to so I knew the connection isn't the problem.


Vuze is very VERY Java-dependent - if you have an out-of-date Java version, it can cause issues with Vuze. I prefer Vuze to uTorrent (even in Windows 8) because it has faster transfer rates; however, the Java dependence is a major security headache. (Transmission, another common P2P client between OS X and Windows, has the same Java-dependency issues as Vuze.) What version of Java were you using?

Could not agree with OP more and that is EXACTLY why Winodws 8 sucks for so many every day users!!

Having to install a 3rd party app for the stupid start menu is absolutely idiotic!!

I've adjusted to Windows 8 some what, considering I don't have it on any of my 8 computers, but from working on other people's brand new systems, I've got the hang of it. Have worked on several Windows 8 machines just long enough to down grade them to Windows 7 mostly!!

I definitely WILL NOT be upgrading any of my machines any time soon, so here's to hoping Windows 7 last as long, or longer than XP!!


That is why I said it is a USER issue.

I can get why users are dependent on the Start menu - after all, it had been around for seventeen years.

However, when you start trying to say that it is anything else, watch the theories have holes blown completely through them.

I have no beef to users not liking Windows 8 for user-related issues. However, I have MUCH beef when they start trying to blow smoke up my butt and say it is something else.

#101 Stup0t

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:07

Here is my 2p worth. I have windows 8 on a netbook and it rocks.... as a portable device I use my netbook almost as much as I use my desktop which is still win 7. I work in IT and take calls from a council and the fire stations... had one call from a 55 year old fireman who wanted to use citrix on his new pc with windows 8..... I got talking while we were waiting for the install and I said about how most tech people don't like 8 because of the start menu..... he said just go down the left of the screen with your mouse and right click there is ye start menu.... wtf....if a non tech savvy fireman can get windows 8.... why cant you lot.... sort ye self out ffs... bunch of whining ******* tbh.

#102 Dot Matrix

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:14

Here is my 2p worth. I have windows 8 on a netbook and it rocks.... as a portable device I use my netbook almost as much as I use my desktop which is still win 7. I work in IT and take calls from a council and the fire stations... had one call from a 55 year old fireman who wanted to use citrix on his new pc with windows 8..... I got talking while we were waiting for the install and I said about how most tech people don't like 8 because of the start menu..... he said just go down the left of the screen with your mouse and right click there is ye start menu.... wtf....if a non tech savvy fireman can get windows 8.... why cant you lot.... sort ye self out ffs... bunch of whining ******* tbh.


Where is this fireman? I wanna go shake his hand! :D

#103 Stup0t

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:17

Where is this fireman? I wanna go shake his hand! :D


Barrow in Furness, Cumbria, England.

#104 Growled

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:20

.....so here's to hoping Windows 7 last as long, or longer than XP!!


It probably will. I can't see many businesses moving to Windows 8 now or in the future.

#105 PGHammer

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 16:52

It probably will. I can't see many businesses moving to Windows 8 now or in the future.


Move now? Highly UNlikely - and not news; training dollars are still hard to come by. If the business in question is running XP or 7, even less likely.

The perception (which is, in fact, what creates threads such as this one on Neowin and elsewhere) is that Windows 8 is so different due to the Start menu being excised AND the addition of touch support. How real that is depends on individual users (not the operating system) and how wedded they are to the Start menu.