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#31 iwod

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 15:28

Apple sued Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. It is a subsidiary company of Samsung Group that controls both smartphone design and display manufacturing (among numerous other things - it is a truly vertically integrated company, the only of its kind in the world). Of course, the display division, smartphone division and the semiconductor division operate independently, but they share a common hierarchy.

Things would be different if Samsung Electronics and Samsung Semiconductor were two different subsidiaries of Samsung Group, as I assume you were implying.


Yes, and Samsung Group Literally controls South Korea. So Apple is going up against a Country this time around.

Yes, because Apple was the ONLY COMPANY EVER to use rounded corners... Seriously, no offense, but these patents were just laughable. They should never have even been awarded. Some of them had MOUNTAINS of prior art. And this is only going to get worse with the changes the Obama Administration has made to the Patent system (Just another thing they don't understand).

And Apple deserves what they get if their arrogance made them stupid enough to think that they would be able to sue such an important supplier without any repercussions. They cannot go somewhere else. It is not that easy. Apple should have known that. They deserve what they get. I have no problem defending legitimate patents, but Apple was using ridiculous patents as a means to keep competition out of the market, and that was all.



For the screens, I think that has all but been proven. Samsung has had to turn away HTC in the past as well because they just could not make enough SAMOLED screens (At the time) for them and everyone else that wanted them.


The patents were used to defence in case someone else copied them.
Should those patents be valid? No.
Are those patents stupid? Yes
Did Samsung infringe in those patents? No because they are suppose to be invalid anyway.
Did Samsung copied Apple? Design? Trade Dress? I did say yes.
But is copying against the law....... ? ....... Let the Judge decides.


#32 Xoligy

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 17:26

I mean this is pathetic, fan boys like you drive me up the wall. Apple sued Samsung becuase they copied there design patents you cant just expect a company weather they use the offending companys products to lie down and let other companies rip you off.

If Samsung want to play hard ball i am sure they will come off worse in the end.


Let me guess, you have apple products and are an apple fan boy and because i said im fed up of apple bullying others and im glad they are being charged more because they were "bullying" Samsung and think "other" companies should charge them more too im a fan boy of.... Samsung? Or every other company? You really have not thought this through and just showed your an apple fan boy because you did not like my response, granted im not a huge fan of Apple and probably never will be they have done alot wrong in the past and i dont like how they try and bully other companies because of "who they are" so Rich, what am i a fan boy of? Samsung, none bullies, every company in the world thats not apple what exactly???

Oh guess i should mention my mobile is an old htc wildfire, infact i guess i should turn it on and see what messages i have its been a month so thank you for that reminder and i look forward to hearing what im a fan boy off.

#33 Growled

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 23:10

I have a sneaking suspicion that we are in for another round of lawsuits before long.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:15

I mean this is pathetic, fan boys like you drive me up the wall. Apple sued Samsung becuase they copied there design patents you cant just expect a company weather they use the offending companys products to lie down and let other companies rip you off.

If Samsung want to play hard ball i am sure they will come off worse in the end.



Apple Fan-Boi


ill stop there

#35 +techbeck

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:55

Doubt this makes much of a dent in Apple's profits...and not surprised Samsung has done this. With the hold trial BS and rumors of Apple switching companies...of course Samsung will milk Apple for all they can. And it must be somewhere in the contact that allows this or Apple would of sued and not accepted the new terms.

And Apple ditching Samsung really won't hurt them. Lots more phones out there to make components for.

#36 Lilrich

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 22:52

I will just leave this here http://www.neowin.ne...a-for-sale-sign

#37 BetaAddict

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 23:12

I will just leave this here http://www.neowin.ne...a-for-sale-sign

Apple buying AMD would make no sense at all. It's a waste of money and integration would be too messy. Furthermore, AMD is entrenched with Windows, which they obviously will want no involvement with. So that would mean they pulling out of all that business and giving it up to intel.

The best suitors is either Microsoft or Google at this point given both are looking for a way to expand their hardware presence, especially for mobile. Maybe even Samsung.

#38 .Neo

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 23:15

It's like watching two children throw sticks and stones at each other, and periodically coming in to cry to their mommy about how much of a bully the other is.

Agreed. It's starting to look pathetic on both sides.

#39 McKay

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 23:29

Apple will simply pass this extra cost onto the consumers.

#40 BoredBozirini

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 17:24

And just like that we learn that the price hike rumor was utter ****.

http://www.thestreet...little-bit.html

#41 Astra.Xtreme

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 17:29

Apple Fan-Boi


ill stop there


How is he a fanboy? He was stating the truth...

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 17:38

The fact of the matter is Samsung is running at quite a full capacity as it is and it makes a lot of money from it's own products meaning it's chips are worth more per unit than they were. They will put prices up to accommodate this.

How is he a fanboy? He was stating the truth...


Read his member title.

#43 Richteralan

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 21:08

I will just leave this here http://www.neowin.ne...a-for-sale-sign

um....you just have no idea what you are talking about.

AMD spin off their semiconductor manufacturing as GlobalFoundries 3 years ago. Now AMD is fabless.

So you mean Apple buy a fabless company will help their manufacturing?

Why I'm not surprised Apple fanboy posting things they never read.

#44 linsook

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 21:27

Nvm

#45 srbeen

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 15:07

Apple will simply pass this extra cost onto the consumers.


Apple simply passes all extra cost onto the consumers. Planned obsolescence