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[ichi]

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 12:54, said:

It says: EXCELLENT but it is not EXCELLENT. Why have a phone with so many cons and slow data speed when there are way better alternatives out there?

To me something excellent is something that is perfect. This unit is not perfect so therefore whoever did the review is mistaken.

1. Mediocre camera and camcorder
2. Ineffective voice dialing
3. Gets warm (all phones do this so this is irrelevant)
4. Slow data speeds

Excellent? Really? Editor's Choice? - What a joke.

The quality-price ratio is excelent.

If you want a SIII you can go and fork twice the money but still the cons don't seem to be such deal breakers for most.

The issue with data speed is restricted to one single operator, and camera and camcorder can probably suffice considering they are still better than those of the previous Nexus phone (which didn't sell this cheap at launch).

[firey]

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 12:57, said:

1. Take pictures and videos to share on their stupid social networks. So this phone is useless for that.
2. Ineffective voice dialing - I guess you are screwed if you wanna go hands-free while driving.
3. Slow Data speeds - well there goes your Facebook surfing and everything else internet related.

1. Says it's mediocre, which means that it's your standard run of the mill camera, nothing 1080p HD crazy
2. Software updates can fix this, also shouldn't be talking on the phone while driving.
3. Slow Data speeds with AT&T, not other networks, also supports WiFI most places have wifi now.. so should all work fine.

[Jub Fequois]

I was going to grab one when I woke up but it was sold out. Sad panda!

[tsupersonic]

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 12:57, said:

It says: EXCELLENT but it is not EXCELLENT. Why have a phone with so many cons and slow data speed when there are way better alternatives out there?

To me something excellent is something that is perfect. This unit is not perfect so therefore whoever did the review is mistaken.

1. Mediocre camera and camcorder
2. Ineffective voice dialing
3. Gets warm (all phones do this so this is irrelevant)
4. Slow data speeds

Excellent? Really? Editor's Choice? - What a joke.



What do most people who own smart phones like this do with it?

1. Take pictures and videos to share on their stupid social networks. So this phone is useless for that.
2. Ineffective voice dialing - I guess you are screwed if you wanna go hands-free while driving.
3. Slow Data speeds - well there goes your Facebook surfing and everything else internet related.

Do you have to be such a troll? You can NEVER base any single product based on just one internet review. You have to read multiple. I personally like Android Central's review. It is a lot more in-depth, and provides camera/video samples, and such.

1) The camera is actually decent. PCMag has nothing to back that up with. Never once in the article does it mention the word 'camera'. It just is in the cons section. To me, PCMag is a disgrace to all thing computing and technology. If you're going to take real pictures, I would hope one uses a real camera rather than a cell phone camera. Bottom line is that it should be a better camera than the Galaxy Nexus.
2) Can be fixed later if it truly is a problem, but since this comes with Google Now, I have had great success with voice dialing.
3) It's 42 Mbps capable, depending on the carrier. That's not slow. Hell, the iPhone finally FINALLY got 4G, what a year and a half+ later than most other phones?

The major downside to this phone is storage. 8 and 16GB is absolutely pathetic, and leave to LG/Google to allow this to happen. We should have 32GB and more.

[Scorbing]

tsupersonic, on 13 November 2012 - 13:21, said:

Do you have to be such a troll? You can NEVER base any single product based on just one internet review. You have to read multiple. I personally like Android Central's review. It is a lot more in-depth, and provides camera/video samples, and such.

1) The camera is actually decent. PCMag has nothing to back that up with. Never once in the article does it mention the word 'camera'. It just is in the cons section. To me, PCMag is a disgrace to all thing computing and technology. If you're going to take real pictures, I would hope one uses a real camera rather than a cell phone camera. Bottom line is that it should be a better camera than the Galaxy Nexus.
2) Can be fixed later if it truly is a problem, but since this comes with Google Now, I have had great success with voice dialing.
3) It's 42 Mbps capable, depending on the carrier. That's not slow. Hell, the iPhone finally FINALLY got 4G, what a year and a half+ later than most other phones?

The major downside to this phone is storage. 8 and 16GB is absolutely pathetic, and leave to LG/Google to allow this to happen. We should have 32GB and more.

OK according to Android Central, and to add to the list of cons:

The battery sucks
No SD or Micro SD Card Slot
No option for LTE Data

I think people will be better off with a Samsung Galaxy don't you think?

The only good thing about the Nexus is that you will always get the latest and greatest Android version first before anyone else. That's it.

[TheLegendOfMart]

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 12:57, said:

It says: EXCELLENT but it is not EXCELLENT. Why have a phone with so many cons and slow data speed when there are way better alternatives out there?

To me something excellent is something that is perfect. This unit is not perfect so therefore whoever did the review is mistaken.

1. Mediocre camera and camcorder
2. Ineffective voice dialing
3. Gets warm (all phones do this so this is irrelevant)
4. Slow data speeds

Excellent? Really? Editor's Choice? - What a joke.



What do most people who own smart phones like this do with it?

1. Take pictures and videos to share on their stupid social networks. So this phone is useless for that.
2. Ineffective voice dialing - I guess you are screwed if you wanna go hands-free while driving.
3. Slow Data speeds - well there goes your Facebook surfing and everything else internet related.

1. Camera is better than the old Galaxy Nexus and is better and worse than Galaxy S3 at certain things
2. Hardly a killer selling point for phones
3. Slow data speeds COMPARED TO LTE, you still get a couple of megabits per second, thats hardly slow.

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 13:34, said:

OK according to Android Central, and to add to the list of cons:

The battery sucks
No SD or Micro SD Card Slot
No option for LTE Data

I think people will be better off with a Samsung Galaxy don't you think?

The only good thing about the Nexus is that you will always get the latest and greatest Android version first before anyone else. That's it.

Price.............in the UK the Nexus 4 is £240, the Galaxy S3 is £500 sim free. It beats S3 on performance, ok so it has IPS screen instead of AMOLED but it is higher resolution, matches the S3 camera wise, camcorder lacks behind but hardly killer selling point.

Sure they cut corners to keep the price down, IPS LCD instead of AMOLED, No SD Card, No LTE, but people who need that will go for a more expensive phone, the ones that don't get a industry leader matching phone for cheap.

[tsupersonic]

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 13:34, said:

OK according to Android Central, and to add to the list of cons:

The battery sucks
No SD or Micro SD Card Slot
No option for LTE Data

I think people will be better off with a Samsung Galaxy don't you think?

The only good thing about the Nexus is that you will always get the latest and greatest Android version first before anyone else. That's it.

The battery is alright, it's internal (ala iPhone design). It's sub-optimal, but with Wi-Fi, they got 18 hours of battery life with 3-5 hours of screen on time. That's pretty damn good, and a substantial improvement over the current Galaxy Nexus. You have to remember, this phone is the successor to the Galaxy Nexus, and it's better in most regards (except storage, and lack of LTE).

Google's current philosophy is trying to get manufacturers to stop adding expandable storage through MicroSD, hence the same issue for Galaxy Nexus. The one thing the Galaxy Nexus did have is 32 GB of internal storage (at least the Verizon Galaxy Nexus), as well as obviously an LTE model.

A lack of LTE is LG/Google's fault - but I can't blame them as Verizon as severely screwed up with the Galaxy Nexus. It may come down the road, who knows. Also, another amazing thing about the Nexus is no 'bloat' from the cell phone carriers, no manufacturer skins (aka: Touchwiz, Sense, Blur, etc.).

I think the average consumer would be better off with a Galaxy S3. For tech. enthusiasts, they'll probably want the Nexus phone.

[still1]

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 13:34, said:

OK according to Android Central, and to add to the list of cons:

The battery sucks
No SD or Micro SD Card Slot
No option for LTE Data

I think people will be better off with a Samsung Galaxy don't you think?

The only good thing about the Nexus is that you will always get the latest and greatest Android version first before anyone else. That's it.

android central doesnt say battery sucks. it says it not removable. iphone survived with all those.
like LTE is a big deal outside US. LTE is there pretty much in US and on verizon. this is GSM so no question of LTE yet.
good troll. why are you getting butt hurt because your wp didnt sell like this.

[ichi]

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 13:34, said:

I think people will be better off with a Samsung Galaxy don't you think?

Unless you actually really need the extra storage you are far better off with a Nexus4 and the $300 difference in your wallet.

[+McKay]

thealexweb, on 13 November 2012 - 12:35, said:

Say they had 100,000 units ready to ship and they get 1,000,000 purchase requests, what do you expect them to do?

I managed to get in before they sold out. However their site during the checkout phase was so unstable and crash-prone that it binned me out 5 times. If Google had kept up their end, I'd have successfully ordered the phone.

[Scorbing]

still1, on 13 November 2012 - 13:57, said:

android central doesnt say battery sucks. it says it not removable. iphone survived with all those.
like LTE is a big deal outside US. LTE is there pretty much in US and on verizon. this is GSM so no question of LTE yet.
good troll. why are you getting butt hurt because your wp didnt sell like this.

And who the hell told you I own a Windows Phone? I do not. FYI, I have an iPhone 4S, Android HTC Inspire before that. Never a Windows phone.

[Richteralan]

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 12:57, said:

What do most people who own smart phones like this do with it?

1. Take pictures and videos to share on their stupid social networks. So this phone is useless for that.
2. Ineffective voice dialing - I guess you are screwed if you wanna go hands-free while driving.
3. Slow Data speeds - well there goes your Facebook surfing and everything else internet related.

1. Useless? I wouldn't go as far as saying its useless. Have you see any HD clips and pictures taken by Nexus 4?
2. When I'm driving I would prefer not call anybody because of safety. If you are THAT into hands-free while driving....heh
3. Wow so slow so sad! BTW what speed you are having now?

Scorbing, on 13 November 2012 - 14:31, said:

And who the hell told you I own a Windows Phone? I do not. FYI, I have an iPhone 4S, Android HTC Inspire before that. Never a Windows phone.

iPhone!

That explains it.

BTW HSPA+21 is still faster than your iPhone 4S.

[+Mephistopheles]

I missed the few minute window during which the Nexus 4 was available in .de because of a meeting. Great.

[Richteralan]

Mephistopheles, on 13 November 2012 - 14:51, said:

I missed the few minute window during which the Nexus 4 was available in .de because of a meeting. Great.

Well...hopefully the second batch will be there soon.

[Scorbing]

Richteralan, on 13 November 2012 - 14:50, said:

1. Useless? I wouldn't go as far as saying its useless. Have you see any HD clips and pictures taken by Nexus 4?
2. When I'm driving I would prefer not call anybody because of safety. If you are THAT into hands-free while driving....heh
3. Wow so slow so sad! BTW what speed you are having now?


iPhone!

That explains it.

BTW HSPA+21 is still faster than your iPhone 4S.

I never said my iPhone was better. What I am saying is, there are better Android alternatives out there such as the Galaxy S3, that's what I am saying. Not once did I mention that the iPhone or Windows phone for that matter, is better in any way. We are talking Android, not iPhone or Windows phone.