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A teenage girl searching for a cell phone signal near San Diego stepped into a nest of rattlesnakes and was bitten six times, but survived.

Reuters reported that the girl, Vera Oliphant, 16, of El Cajon received 24 vials of antivenom after she was bitten by an adult rattlesnake and five young rattlers Oct. 27 outside her uncle

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Rattlesnakes are not near as dangerous and the media makes them out to be. People get bit all the time and while painful, nothing happens as long as the anti venom is given soon enough. Anywhere rattlesnakes live, anti venom is easy to come by.

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Walking around in a town/city where there are[font="Segoe UI, Segoe, Helvetica, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#282828"] Rattlesnakes while not paying attention. Well done[/color][/size][/font]
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Play her off, Keyboard Cat!
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She needs to receive the Darwin, Missed it by that Much award.
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Sorry -- but when you're so focused on a cell phone and texting, that you are stepping into snakes, it's time to give up the damned phone. :s
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The venom of a poisonous snake is a precious commodity that it takes energy to produce, so a lot of non-hunting bites are warning shots that inject little to no venom. This mostly accounts for a 2.6% rattler mortality rate without antivenin and 0.28% with it.

Still, death isn't the only metric to be considered. Most rattlers have a largely hemotoxic venom that can cause effects leading to limb loss and other nastiness. Definitely non-trivial, and even a small injection can cause allergic reactions.

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[quote name='DocM' timestamp='1352911828' post='595319954']
The venom of a poisonous snake is a precious commodity that it takes energy to produce, so a lot of non-hunting bites are warning shots that inject little to no venom. This mostly accounts for a 2.6% rattler mortality rate without antivenin and 0.28% with it.

Still, death isn't the only metric to be considered. Most rattlers have a largely hemotoxic venom that can cause effects leading to limb loss and other nastiness. Definitely non-trivial, and even a small injection can cause allergic reactions.
[/quote]Yea, not trivial but definitely not something that deserves a Darwin award. Go hiking in Oklahoma or Texas and you'll see rattlesnakes everywhere. Stepping somewhere on accident and getting bitten is how it happens almost always. All it takes is a distraction. No way this is Darwin worthy. Darwin awards are for people that do obviously stupid things. Walking around on a cellphone is not an obviously stupid thing.
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^ Paying no attention to [i]where[/i] you are walking IS a stupid thing.
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So is she going to turn into a super hero?
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[quote name='Hum' timestamp='1352919026' post='595320190']
^ Paying no attention to [i]where[/i] you are walking IS a stupid thing.
[/quote]Not enough to be Darwin award worthy. She wasn't walking on a freeway or somewhere like that. Where she was walking was a generally safe place. Stupid, yes but anyone who claims it is Darwin award worthy is saying that they themselves are Darwin award worthy. It's not obviously stupid or am I the only one that doesn't pay attention to 100% of my surroundings 100% of the time? I live in a part of Oklahoma that has rattlesnakes. I am in a city so they are rare but they do exist. Are you suggesting that I should be looking for them 100% of the time and my own backyard isn't safe and I should avoid going out there? That's no way to lead life.

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[quote name='Hum' timestamp='1352919026' post='595320190']
^ Paying no attention to [i]where[/i] you are walking IS a stupid thing.
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Even here in Michigan, which has a huge population of black rattlers - the largest concentration in the Midwest. Thankfully they're only a meter or so long and don't inject a very large amount of venom.

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[quote name='DocM' timestamp='1352911828' post='595319954']
The venom of a poisonous snake is a precious commodity that it takes energy to produce, so a lot of non-hunting bites are warning shots that inject little to no venom. This mostly accounts for a 2.6% rattler mortality rate without antivenin and 0.28% with it.

Still, death isn't the only metric to be considered. Most rattlers have a largely hemotoxic venom that can cause effects leading to limb loss and other nastiness. Definitely non-trivial, and even a small injection can cause allergic reactions.
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This. While most bites aren't deadly, they normally lead to horrible tissue scarring, splitting, and sometimes amputation. The venom in a rattler is very nasty.
I'd like to see a picture of how she looked. 6 bites is a lot, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some major deformation in the area that the bites were.

At my storage facility, I kill probably 3 to 4 rattlers a year during summer. Mostly babies. Those worry me the most though, because they lack the control over their venom, and normally will end up injecting everything they have, making their bites worse than an adults. I've almost been bit more times than I can count. They also have stopped rattling their tails due to the increase of hogs in the area and how the noise makes the hogs just end up stomping them to death. They have learned, and now just stay silent and strike when threatened.

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[quote name='shakey' timestamp='1352924658' post='595320442']
This. While most bites aren't deadly, they normally lead to horrible tissue scarring, splitting, and sometimes amputation. The venom in a rattler is very nasty.
I'd like to see a picture of how she looked. 6 bites is a lot, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some major deformation in the area that the bites were.

At my storage facility, I kill probably 3 to 4 rattlers a year during summer. Mostly babies. Those worry me the most though, because they lack the control over their venom, and normally will end up injecting everything they have, making their bites worse than an adults. I've almost been bit more times than I can count. They also have stopped rattling their tails due to the increase of hogs in the area and how the noise makes the hogs just end up stomping them to death. They have learned, and now just stay silent and strike when threatened.
[/quote]According to some posters here, you are due for a Darwin award.
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[quote name='ILikeTobacco' timestamp='1352925163' post='595320464']
According to some posters here, you are due for a Darwin award.
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Don't worry, most on here don't know their head from their ass :p
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[quote name='DocM' timestamp='1352911828' post='595319954']
a poisonous
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I am not trolling I just want to say ... that when referring to animals, venom is generally enzymes released at users will... while poisonous animals are those which have venomous or poisonous diet and secret the toxins via the pores or body fluids (like toad licking most eat things like fire ants) :D just wanted to say you might find that interesting

[quote name='ILikeTobacco' timestamp='1352910202' post='595319878']
Rattlesnakes are not near as dangerous and the media makes them out to be. People get bit all the time and while painful, nothing happens as long as the anti venom is given soon enough. Anywhere rattlesnakes live, anti venom is easy to come by.
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take the anti-venom out of the equation and tell me they are not dangerous ? hematoxic venom is nasty it kills your body makes it rot from the inside out you normally lose use of everything below the bite when not treated quickly enough .... also yes I agree it probs was very painful but atleast it wasnt a snake with a majority mix of nuerotoxic

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[quote name='SPEhosting' timestamp='1352935504' post='595320854']
take the anti-venom out of the equation and tell me they are not dangerous ? hematoxic venom is nasty it kills your body makes it rot from the inside out you normally lose use of everything below the bite when not treated quickly enough .... also yes I agree it probs was very painful but atleast it wasnt a snake with a majority mix of nuerotoxic
[/quote]You could do that and take the anti-venom out of the equation but that makes sense in what universe? Here in reality, we have the anti-venom readily available everywhere the snakes are, we don't have to worry about situations like that so why make an argument based outside of reality?

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Cool...

I just had a 6" Italian BMT at subway. :)

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[quote name='ILikeTobacco' timestamp='1352936002' post='595320866']
You could do that and take the anti-venom out of the equation but that makes sense in what universe? Here in reality, we have the anti-venom readily available everywhere the snakes are, we don't have to worry about situations like that so why make an argument based outside of reality?
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cause its not out of reality ? I am in england ... rattle snake anti venom isnt on hand and I worked with rattle snakes and cobras and vipers.... If I got bitten ... I would be in trouble anti venom has an expiry date we couldnt keep it on site either also hospitals dont make it all the time ... so yea ?

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This gal reminds me of that woman who fell into a fountain at the mall while texting.
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Were the rattlesnakes set to vibrate?
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[quote name='ILikeTobacco' timestamp='1352910202' post='595319878'] Rattlesnakes are not near as dangerous and the media makes them out to be. People get bit all the time and while painful, nothing happens as long as the anti venom is given soon enough. Anywhere rattlesnakes live, anti venom is easy to come by. [/quote]

I know, she ONLY spent 4 days in intensive care, what a sissy! ;)

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[quote name='DavidM' timestamp='1352941752' post='595321120']
I know, she ONLY spent 4 days in intensive care, what a sissy! ;)
[/quote]That's because the number of bites and the fact that it was some young ones which release all of their venom when they bite vs mature snakes which only release as much as is needed to defend the nest. Nobody is saying she is a sissy however a rattlesnake is not near as dangerous as the media, and movies for that matter, make it out to be.

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