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#16 Growled

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 00:23

I don't see this becoming the next big thing, although I'm sure a few will follow this path.


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 00:27

Yet another means to cheat the process of natural selection and contribute to overpopulation. I love science and education, but sometimes I think we should just leave nature alone. The current means of producing children has worked well for millions of years across many different species, let's not go messing around with it.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 00:30

Sounds very wrong to me, but maybe that's just me.
Mate with each other ffs...

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I have no issue mating with each other but the problem lies in the girl wanting a relationship or wanting child support or alimony or any of the other greedy ways they find to get money and do nothing. This way the man can have a baby and take care of it 100% on his terms.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 00:34

I have no issue mating with each other but the problem lies in the girl wanting a relationship or wanting child support or alimony or any of the other greedy ways they find to get money and do nothing. This way the man can have a baby and take care of it 100% on his terms.

Sorry dude, but you make it sound like it only matters what the daddy wants.


Be more selective with your partner and your chances are better things will go nicely.
No guarantees, but wishing any guarantees with having children is absurd.

Also, I think that there should always be a real mother and a real dad.
Or in case of adoption (or this new method maybe) any two guardians.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 00:36

True, but it's not always nature rejecting the possibility.


Ah, I see we can agree here.

Well, I think this might be a great chance for transsexuals however, but I guess this should only ever be made possible after throughout testing.
And by throughout I mean: THROUGHOUT.


Sounds very wrong to me, but maybe that's just me.
Mate with each other ffs...

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As soon as we find our girls that is :(

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 00:50

A hole new dimension of masturbator toys... (typo pun intended by the way)

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:19

The "leave it to natural selection" argument is silly when you're living in a modern society which already rejects that notion in most respects. Modern medicine and medical practices, electronics, etc. If one day a baby can be born outside the womb with no side effects, it would just be yet another means, or "tool", for humans to use. Foregoing the advantages technology provides, especially when there are no drawbacks, just to maintain tradition is somewhat irrational and hypocritical. I don't even see it as a valid ethical issue. Who or what gets harmed other than arbitrary beliefs?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:25

The "leave it to natural selection" argument is silly when you're living in a modern society which already rejects that notion in most respects. Modern medicine and medical practices, electronics, etc. If one day a baby can be born outside the womb with no side effects, it would just be yet another means, or "tool", for humans to use. Foregoing the advantages technology provides, especially when there are no drawbacks, just to maintain tradition is somewhat irrational and hypocritical. I don't even see it as a valid ethical issue. Who or what gets harmed other than arbitrary beliefs?


Well, I would say it's smart to leave it to special cases to raise a children outside a human body, because there are certain bonds created between the mother and the child during those 9 months that you can NOT recreate later on.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:57

Well, I would say it's smart to leave it to special cases to raise a children outside a human body, because there are certain bonds created between the mother and the child during those 9 months that you can NOT recreate later on.

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Yes, that would be a stronger argument. Although I feel the importance of those nine months is a matter of degree. Assuming the aforementioned process is perfect, there would be no ill effects on the development of the baby, or it might even be beneficial to the baby by having such a controlled environment.

As for the mother developing motherly bonds with the baby, I don't feel it's necessarily required for the baby to be inside her. Fathers aren't subject to it but we don't have an issue with that because that's the way it is. I feel like if more bonding time is important, it's also worth bringing up things like child daycare when both parents are working, or adoption where it's not even possible to have that womb bonding time. Having as much bonding time as possible would probably be the ideal situation but parents don't always have all the time in the world. It's all a balancing act in the end. Some mothers might want those additional 9 months of physical bonding time and there's nothing wrong with that of course. Others won't care for it or have other priorities.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:08

Well, I would say it's smart to leave it to special cases to raise a children outside a human body, because there are certain bonds created between the mother and the child during those 9 months that you can NOT recreate later on.

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Maybe it can be used for a gay couple. I know probably not in the backwards USA where its still not legal in all states but there are places that actually care about its citizens like Canada that it would work great.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:20

take a pill. and touch your palms. sit still. and wait for sparks to fly. i think the barbarella queen of the galaxy people have the right idea.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:30

Aldous Huxley would be proud, by Ford!! Soma for everyone!

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:42

Maybe it can be used for a gay couple. I know probably not in the backwards USA where its still not legal in all states but there are places that actually care about its citizens like Canada that it would work great.


What? gay couples are illegal in the "backwards USA"? since when?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:52

I don't know why, but the first thing that came to mind was the Matrix.

Seriously this could be good for couples who struggle with miscarriages but I fear like many of our technologies, it will be abused. Like some country using it to produce their own breed of emotionless soldiers or some other twisted idea.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:14

The "leave it to natural selection" argument is silly when you're living in a modern society which already rejects that notion in most respects. Modern medicine and medical practices, electronics, etc. If one day a baby can be born outside the womb with no side effects, it would just be yet another means, or "tool", for humans to use. Foregoing the advantages technology provides, especially when there are no drawbacks, just to maintain tradition is somewhat irrational and hypocritical. I don't even see it as a valid ethical issue. Who or what gets harmed other than arbitrary beliefs?


I had an entire rant written that would cover a lot of this, but deleted it to be considerate, however I'll elaborate on how I feel, because I think you may misunderstand my position. Before I begin I'd like to state that I don't think we should start systematically sterilizing people or refusing treatment to people to sick people, these are just things that I've observed, and it's as objective as I can be about the matter.

As a species who depends on this planet for sustenance, we have already surpassed the point at which the planet can sustainably feed every human being that exists. I appreciate a lot of the modern conveniences and advances in medicine, but at the same time I can objectively look at the condition we are in today and realize that if we don't colonize another planet soon, or figure out how to build cities under the ocean, a lot of us will gradually starve to death. It may not get to that point in my lifetime, but we're headed that way.

Because of things like vaccinations and advances in medicine, illnesses that would have killed people, and therefore helped to "cull the flock" a hundred or two hundred years ago, are now either extinct, or no longer a legitimate threat. People are alive today that would have been too mentally or physically weak to survive the rigors of day to day life if they had been around at the time this country (U.S.) was founded, and that was only a few hundred years ago. However, even though that is now the case, the vast majority of people, especially those in the lower income brackets (I live in a low-income area, so I know), have not modified their breeding habits to account for the higher chances of survival of their offspring. People continue to have 3, 4, and 5 children, and they will be praised and told how good it is that they can produce lots of children. In turn, each of those children will go on to have 3, 4 and 5 children, so in 2 generations, what started out as one man and one woman, may turn into 20 or 30.

As things stand now, even though the risk has drastically been reduced, there is still some risk involved in the child bearing process. Women regularly have miscarriages for one reason or another. Some people are just plain sterile and can't have children at all. This, in my opinion, is all part of the process of natural selection, and is a vital part of controlling the population of the human race. If we become capable of producing children at will with no real physical effort or pain on our part, the next thing you know we'll be trying to find a way to systematically execute people based on arbitrary divisions that we create like race, skin color, religious background, political leanings, income level, etc., just so the rest of us can have a bite to eat at the end of the day.

Unless of course the scientists that have figured out how to mass produce babies have also figured out how to colonize Mars, then we're all good, :-)