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#136 Luis Mazza

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:10

Code Bloat is excessive code piling up. With the Start Screen taking over for the Start Menu, and Microsoft wanting to move Windows in a new direction, well, there you go.



O rly...



Spoken like a true pundit. They have no liability to do so. It's their OS, not yours. You are not the designer, you are not the developer, you are not the CEO. Don't like it? Don't use it.


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:15

The icons for legacy apps aren't really that much larger (if indeed larger at all) on the Start Screen than they were in the Start menu?!


eh, no not really, You have never actually seen a windows computer have you ?

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:18

http://www.netmarket...e.aspx?qprid=10

Actually according to this it's about half


Actually according to that it's not...read the data next time...don't just stare at the pretty colors:

OS X 10.6.....1.95%
OS X 10.7.....1.94%
OS X 10.8.....1.60%
Linux..............1.24%

That totals: 6.73%

If I toss in OS X 10.5 & 10.4 that brings it up to 7.42%

Vista has 5.03% of the market.

Last I checked 5.03 was not 'about half' of 7.42...unless you want to explain this math to me. :)

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:18

eh, no not really, You have never actually seen a windows computer have you ?

You're right. The icons are slightly larger. My apologies.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:24

Actually according to that it's not...read the data next time...don't just stare at the pretty colors:

OS X 10.6.....1.95%
OS X 10.7.....1.94%
OS X 10.8.....1.60%
Linux..............1.24%

That totals: 6.73%

If I toss in OS X 10.5 & 10.4 that brings it up to 7.42%

Vista has 5.03% of the market.

Last I checked 5.03 was not 'about half' of 7.42...unless you want to explain this math to me. :)


Again with the condescension, can't help it can you? I was reading the wrong part of the chart, easy enough to do. Don't recall you talking down to the other guy about his math though, curious how these things work out isn't it :laugh: apologists of a feather cluck together?

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:25

Again with the condescension, can't help it can you? I was reading the wrong part of the chart, easy enough to do. Don't recall you talking down to the other guy about his math though, curious how these things work out isn't it :laugh: apologists of a feather cluck together?


As far as I can see, Linux+Mac marketshare is at 8.33% going by NetMarketShare's numbers.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:33

You're right. The icons are slightly larger. My apologies.


Slightly ? are you high ?

on top of hat they are also organized according to my wishes, and grouped as I want. and there's far more of them directly accessible than I could have on my old start menu.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:35

Again with the condescension, can't help it can you? I was reading the wrong part of the chart, easy enough to do. Don't recall you talking down to the other guy about his math though, curious how these things work out isn't it :laugh: apologists of a feather cluck together?


I reply to the posts that I happen to spot. I'm not on all day, and don't read every single post. I spot something and regardless of what side it's on I will call it out.

Point me to the specific post and I'll see if what they say matches up.

That said don't try to blame me for the fact that you failed to read.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:35

As far as I can see, Linux+Mac marketshare is at 8.33% going by NetMarketShare's numbers.


http://www.netmarket...=10&qpcustomd=0

it also says that vista has 6%

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:37

As far as I can see, Linux+Mac marketshare is at 8.33% going by NetMarketShare's numbers.


That is a 10% graph based on just those 3 operating systems being scored.

The other graph listed earlier includes iOS based share, JAVA ME based share and various other OS's.

So the true accounting is as I stated above. As I pointed out to Javik...read things more closely. :p

#146 Javik

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:37

most people didn't go back to XP. Vista still to this day has more users then Mac OS and Linux combined


I reply to the posts that I happen to spot. I'm not on all day, and don't read every single post. I spot something and regardless of what side it's on I will call it out.


Directly above mine :laugh:

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:38

That is a 10% graph based on just those 3 operating systems being scored.


Well, it's looking purely at Desktop operating systems.

Slightly ? are you high ?

Seems to be 48x48 vs. 32x32. I'll leave it up to you whether that makes a huge difference.

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#148 Shane Nokes

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:38

http://www.netmarket...=10&qpcustomd=0

it also says that vista has 6%


That's because that one also has a smaller number of OS's listed. By removing the number of Operating Systems counted, but still retaining a percentage that must hit 100 you adjust the numbers.

That's why the earlier posting someone made is more accurate. The more operating systems you count, the more accurate the final scoring.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:41

Seems to be 48x48 vs. 32x32. I'll leave it up to you whether that makes a huge difference.


32x32 is a better fit for the start menu, 48x48 is a better fit for the start screen IMO. The icons for legacy applications in the start screen look fine to me anyway.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:42

Directly above mine :laugh:


Yes Colin was wrong.

5.03% is not more than 7.42%

It's a difference of 2.39% in favor of the last 5 releases of OS X & every variant of Linux combined.

That still puts him closer to being correct by the numbers...but still wrong...so both of you lose on that one.