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[roadwarrior]

Denis W, on 16 November 2012 - 22:30, said:

True. In public spaces anyway. There's a nude beach somewhere here...

But McDonald's and other private establishments can and should enforce house rules. You're there at a restaurant to eat and chat, not be disruptive to other patrons. Same thing applies if this guy were to cyber chat in a library.



Now that you mention it, the modern day Play Places are quite lame, if a particular location still has a Play Place.

Play Places here are actually pretty nice, depending on the location. My point about the topless woman is that legally there would be no difference between the guy talking to a topless man and a topless woman. Neither would (or should) be considered pornography in this instance. If there were other things being shown on the screen, then yeah, but the manager didn't witness anything inappropriate, which leads me to believe that the woman was having a hissy fit and making up details to make her story get more attention than it deserved.

[Javik]

If McDonalds tried to go adult only, they'd lose a lot of business. IMO not worth doing so an incredibly tiny portion of their customers can watch pr0n on their free wifi.

[roadwarrior]

Javik, on 16 November 2012 - 22:20, said:

Maybe not technically illegal but a bit of a disrespectful thing to do in a restaurant that you know is attended by families and children. I'm pretty liberal in all but in my opinion he overstepped the line. McDonalds also took far too long to kick him out IMO.

You might want to read over the article again. They didn't kick him out. The manager spoke to him, saw nothing inappropriate, but asked him to not use profanity, which he agreed to.

[Javik]

roadwarrior, on 16 November 2012 - 22:43, said:

You might want to read over the article again. They didn't kick him out. The manager spoke to him, saw nothing inappropriate, but asked him to not use profanity, which he agreed to.

In that case then, McDonalds screwed up as well. The kids may not hear the swearing but they'd only have to look over at the screen to see what was happening.

[soniqstylz]

Was he handling his McNuggets?

[Growled]

There is a time and a place for everything. I don't consider McDonald's (or any public place really) as a proper place for that kind of activity. Seeing a man or a woman naked on a computer screen is no different than seeing them actually sitting in a booth naked.

[Denis W]

roadwarrior, on 16 November 2012 - 22:38, said:

Play Places here are actually pretty nice, depending on the location. My point about the topless woman is that legally there would be no difference between the guy talking to a topless man and a topless woman. Neither would (or should) be considered pornography in this instance. If there were other things being shown on the screen, then yeah, but the manager didn't witness anything inappropriate, which leads me to believe that the woman was having a hissy fit and making up details to make her story get more attention than it deserved.

Yeah the Play Places used to be nice as a kid... I can't tell for sure if they're dumbing them down

Also while legally being topless is fine for both genders, many except for a few women still perceive topless women in public in a negative manner, automatically leading to pornographic calls. These are the same folks that cried foul over our new plastic $20 bill, which contained a war memorial with - yup - breasts. http://newsfeed.time...l-pornographic/

What you said could also be possible. But on the other hand, it's also possible the man was indeed cyber sexing with a topless lady (who apparently has just as much of an attitude as the mother in this story) and hid the window before the manager could intervene.

[roadwarrior]

Javik, on 16 November 2012 - 22:45, said:

In that case then, McDonalds screwed up as well. The kids may not hear the swearing but they'd only have to look over at the screen to see what was happening.

What part of the line "the manager saw nothing inappropriate" are you not understanding? We only have the word of mother that there was ever anything "pornographic" on the screen. In most parts of Canada, a woman can legally walk down the street topless, so how is it suddenly pornographic if she happens to appear on someone's computer screen that way? The mother never even claimed to have seen anything on the screen other than a topless woman. No sexual acts, no genitals, nothing. I'll take the word of the restaurant manager over a hysterical busybody mother any day.

Denis W, on 17 November 2012 - 07:02, said:

What you said could also be possible. But on the other hand, it's also possible the man was indeed cyber sexing with a topless lady (who apparently has just as much of an attitude as the mother in this story) and hid the window before the manager could intervene.

The manager confirmed that he was doing a video chat with a woman (which I assume means that the chat window was still up), but saw nothing inappropriate. The only issue the manager had was with his language.

This really does sound like a case of the woman being offended by the language her kids heard, then embellishing the story to make it sound even worse. We only have her word to go on that the woman on the screen was even topless.

[hotdog963al]

Pro tip: Don't go to McDonald's. ?

[+remixedcat]

When I was at a Denny's in VA beach this forum was blocked on thier Wifi for bad content... I was like WTF? and switched to 3G.... It was a crappy denny's too!!!!

[Kriz]

Fair enough if people cant see what you're doing, but if its loud enough for the whole place to hear just get a pair of headphones!

[Charisma]

Kriz, on 17 November 2012 - 15:51, said:

Fair enough if people cant see what you're doing, but if its loud enough for the whole place to hear just get a pair of headphones!

Yeah, this was my thought, sounds like the whole thing could have been avoided with a simple headset. Who goes out in public blaring their music/conversations/etc for everyone?

[roadwarrior]

Kriz, on 17 November 2012 - 15:51, said:

Fair enough if people cant see what you're doing, but if its loud enough for the whole place to hear just get a pair of headphones!

Well, according to the article (which you must not have read), the man was wearing earphones but was hearing impaired. If you are wearing earphones, you can't always tell how much people around you can hear. I've got good hearing and my wife has occasionally had to tell me to turn a movie down that I was watching on the computer while wearing earphones. I can only imagine that it would be harder for someone who was hearing impaired to know how loud it was to other people around him.

[Kriz]

roadwarrior, on 17 November 2012 - 15:58, said:

Well, according to the article (which you must not have read), the man was wearing earphones but was hearing impaired. If you are wearing earphones, you can't always tell how much people around you can hear. I've got good hearing and my wife has occasionally had to tell me to turn a movie down that I was watching on the computer while wearing earphones. I can only imagine that it would be harder for someone who was hearing impaired to know how loud it was to other people around him.

Meh i skimmed, bout to head out All in all though, Mcd's was the wrong place for such a conversation!

[roadwarrior]

Charisma, on 17 November 2012 - 15:56, said:

Yeah, this was my thought, sounds like the whole thing could have been avoided with a simple headset. Who goes out in public blaring their music/conversations/etc for everyone?

Seriously people, please RTFA:

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Sorensen said the company on Thursday reviewed video footage of the incident, which captures Hopkins’ family and the man on his computer.

“The gentleman was conducting a webcam conversation and wearing ear buds as he is hearing impaired,” she said. “In approaching the gentleman, the restaurant manager on duty witnessed nothing inappropriate but did confirm it was a webcam conversation with a female. The manager asked him to lower his voice and avoid using any profanity (which the customer said he was using). The gentleman apologized and agreed to do so.”