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#1 Osiris

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:19

SAMSUNG SMART PC (XE500T) REVIEW
How I learned to love the Atom
Reviewed by Osiris

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Background

For the last decade I have had an ongoing, on and off again, love hate relationship with Windows based tablets. Some of these tablets have included and spanned hefty Windows XP tablets, tiny Vista based tablets right through to modern more effective Windows 7 tablets. Despite these varieties and many more shapes and sizes, typically over this time the same limits have persistently dogged these tablets; poor battery life, heavy weight, poor performance and high niche pricing. In many instances the latter two were forgivable; however trying to use a tablet for day to day, study or business purposes with the first two deficiencies makes it an uphill - and often - inconvenient battle.

With the advent of Windows 8 another era of hope and optimism dawns over the Windows tablet landscape. Promises of light devices providing all day battery, choices of performance at all levels and a true windows experience in a mobile platform abound. I am familiar with these promises from almost every generation of Windows tablets since their inception, the question is could this year finally be the year it all comes true?

The short answer is Yes…but we are still in an era of compromise, this goes for all tablets.

Keep that in mind as I will speak more about that at the end although without further delay lets get into looking at our first Atom clover trail based Windows 8 tablet, the Samsung Smart PC.

Summary
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Specifications
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** Make sure you check this, Canadian and AT&T models for example are reporting that they do not come with the S-Pen although they do still have the digitiser hardware in them, just don’t come with a stylus slot or stylus inbuilt.

Unboxing and the Contents

There’s not a lot to say about the unboxing and its contents to be honest, it seems Apple and recently Microsoft are still the only companies to cotton on to how much the initial unboxing can contribute to a good consumer first impression

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As you can see the box is pretty standard and as we open it up we are presented with:

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1x Samsung smart pc tablet
1x Keyboard Dock (only selected units)
1x power adapter
1x Stylus nub kit
1x miscellaneous documents and stickers

That being said, despite a lack of fanfare or goodies within the packaging or its contents it was still quite exciting to reach in, pick up and start peeling the plastic off that Windows 8 tablet.

The Build

Once you’ve brushed aside the plastic and tossed the box out the way and are holding the device in your excited hands you instantly start forming your impressions of the build and quality of the unit. My first thoughts upon picking up the actual tablet were:

• It felt good in the hands in terms of the edges, cornering and materials used
• Screen feels firm, the one windows hardware button gives the front a nice minimalist look
• it was also surprisingly lighter than I had expected it to feel (more on that later) and
• The actual build quality was both more solid and of better actual quality than what I had been expecting.

In some initial impressions and youtube videos people talk about and demonstrate creaking in the plastic back of the device. Many comments lament this being generally just typical of Samsung build quality. I agree this device does not have the same indulgently nice magnesium carbonate quality feel of the recently released Surface nor the beautiful to touch feel of say the Macbook Air for example - but it’s a step up from the Galaxy Note and other Galaxy products I have used. I have also been fortunate enough not to experience the creaking of the plastic as some users have found.

I can also confirm I cannot replicate the further issues Gizmodo claims to have had around the build quality affecting the display of the screen.

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The actual design of the unit is quite minimalistic, the ports are tucked away at the edges and have covers, the two stereo speakers are barely noticeable slivers on the front sides and the buttons feel solid and raised enough to be tactile and easily felt (volume, auto-rotate, power on/off).

Better build quality like the surface or even the series 7 Samsung tablets is always welcome but even with the plastic backing the device feels solid to both hold and use. The only area of build I can mark the unit down in would be on the port covers. Every time I use a port I keep waiting for these flimsy things to break off and seeing them stick out when I’m using the hdmi or USB ports just makes it look a bit cheapened.

Ports and Inputs

“My kingdom for a usb port!” A common catchcry amongst many a tablet users has now been answered by Samsung (and most of the Windows 8 tablet line up). On the actual tablet device of the Smart PC we have the following bevy of ports and inputs:

1x USB 2.0
1 x Micro SD
1 x Micro HDMI Out
1x Microphone in and headphone/mic out

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Coming from the iPad I have to say it’s a pleasure having the USB port on the device and ready to go. I guess after not having it on tablets for so long I wasn’t really expecting to get much use out of it but this little addition has been greatly welcomed for quickly transferring files on and off the device and connecting my phone and other accessories when needed – In both business and personal usage. Yes USB 3.0 would be great (see the smart pc pro) but just having a port without having to buy an accessory or stuff about is just how it should be.

Not all the Windows 8 line up has the usb slot on the actual tablet device so just keep an eye out if you are looking into these Windows 8 tablets.

The Mini HDMI out works with no hassles and as easily as you would expect. Yes, a full HDMI port would have been more useful but mini hdmi cables are starting to become common place and reasonably cheap. Connecting it to my monitor was a breeze and it simply worked. With 1900x res I did not observe any lag with common tasks or multitasking. The same was true when video was playing out to it. I did not however test the audio return. Apparently a good hdmi mini cable or the proper adapter does have audio return so you could output the video and sound to the monitor/tv device as well.

Weight

As I described earlier I was pretty surprised with the weight of the device and continue to be happy with this aspect.

With the ipad 3 in its case I actually think they actually feel about on par. Over long periods of time and as you approach the 1kg mark tablets begin to lose some of their portability factor even if its only around reading for extended times. I had a suspicion the 700g arena of the Samsung might suffer from this problem coming from the ipad but perhaps because the weight is distributed across a larger surface it has not and at this point I cannot see it being an issue.

Instant On, Online Standby, Hibernate and Boot Times

One of the things I have enjoyed most about consumption tablets like the iPad and Galaxy tab is just being able to hit the power or home button and the device is instantly on and ready to go. I was concerned with Windows tablets that standby/hibernate or resume times would be tedious and put me off reaching for the device as often as I might the ipad or other tablet. The combination of power options within Windows 8 and the Online standby mode supported on clover trail architecture delivers impressive results.

Throughout the day your device will enter an online standby or ‘sleep’ mode. This is a greatly reduced power state that can not only perform limited background tasks such as checking for email so that when you power on the device the latest mail is ready and waiting but it provides the same instant on functionality you get with any other tablet.

Other Samsung smart pc owners have suggested hibernate is on by default, I am not convinced of this but nevertheless with some tweaking you can get it back. When in hibernate mode just like any other Windows notebook your desktop session is saved and the device enters an incredibly low power usage state. The resume time from hibernate is not as quick as the online standby but you can be back in your desktop within 10 seconds which given my work is saved and the incredibly lower power consumption for leaving it essentially on overnight or for extended periods with no usage, I have been very happy with.

Initially I was pretty impressed with the boot time and I actually suspect a recent firmware update may have extended the time as whilst doing this review I clocked the boot-time from cold boot at 23 seconds to desktop. Ideally between standby/sleep and hibernate the device is unlikely to be fully powered down at any point so this shouldn’t be too much of an issue but its nice to know you can be on your desktop in less than 30 seconds unlike rebooting a laptop or netbook of old where a cup of coffee whilst you wait was the order of the day.

Battery

I mentioned at the start that battery life is one of the key things needed for a productive and good tablet experience. Regardless of whether you are looking at this from a business, student day to day or purely consumption point of view – no one wants to be tethered to a power point and in terms of business usage to adequately utilise these you need the confidence in your device that you are going to make it through the day.

One of the big promises of Clover trail is all day battery life and it delivers on this.

Samsung rates the device at 14.5hours (Mobile Mark) and 10 hours video watching.

To be honest it’s hard to tell how many hours I am actually getting from this device, whilst its getting me through the business day with ease, keeping a log of the actual hours used is a bit tricky (as im working across a range of devices and situations) for example, at 100% charge and keeping the device ‘on’ all day (display off / SoC standby) I typically come home from a from work with an average of 60% charge remaining. The actual usage time though may only be about 4-5 hours predominantly of inking / document viewing or writing / network usage (browsing/file transfers/rdp). On a single charge the device has gotten me through two business days worth of work, I would say this was with a conservative total usage time of 9 hours medium constant use over those 2 days and the device not being fully powered down at any point.

To some extent non video usage is hard to gauge, I don’t know what was involved in achieving a Mobilemark of 14.5 hours, for my own light-medium usage I don’t see me quite hitting that mark but other Samsung users claim to hit 10hours with battery to spare so I question if the battery in my device is 100%.
Nevertheless 2 hours of constant web browsing with max screen brightness seems to drop the unit just 20% giving you close to 10 hours battery life with constant usage and unlikely high screen brightness – certainly on par with many common tablets.

Samsung rates the unit at 10hrs of video watching but doesn’t specify the conditions used for that to be achieved. Using a screen brightness of 40%, wifi/nfc/bt turned off I was able to run several 1 hour tests of both 720/1080p video and in these instances the charge rate fell by 8-9%. Full screen brightness doubled the drainage as expected. I estimate you would get 7 hours of full video at max brightness. In comparison to the user reports from the Samsung Pro (iCore5) which taps out at 3-4hours under similar conditions. Extrapolating from that its easy to see the unit would hit 10hours under those the 40% no wifi conditions.

Online standby mode will consume more power depending on how many applications you have running (as mentioned earlier it performs limited tasks for some apps/applications). Leaving it on overnight in this state - depending on your power settings - can see you drop 10%. Hibernate on the other hand in the same time frame will barely move beyond 1-2% drawdown.

Overall I am very happy with the battery life of the Samsung smart pc and it achieves what no tablet pc without a spare battery, battery slice or spare power adapter has done before and that is provide me with a full day of battery life and the confidence that I can leave the charger at home and am truly free.

With the device on it takes just under 2.5 hours to return to full charge.

Screen

Breaking the trend of 10” screens the Smart PC boasts an interesting 11.6” landscape based display. The landscape nature of this display might be off-putting initially for some but I have come to really enjoy and appreciate it – so much so 10” just seems small now. Where the landcape based nature of this display really comes into its own is with multi-tasking. Being able to comfortably split the screen or utilise the snap view of metro apps with this display is just ideal. It really takes your ability to do more with the device, all at once, to a new level. The galaxy note has a similar function but in its apps but it’s a limited implementation whereas this flows across the whole system.

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Landscape size of the device allows you to comfortable multitask on both portions of the screen

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Comparison of ipad3 overlaying the Samsung XE500T

In portrait mode e-book reading and in particular the inking experience shines – its like inking on an A4 notepad. The hardware button to turn on and off the auto-rotation of the device is also a welcome implementation.

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Despite its HD limitations with the resolution of 1366 x 768, I find the screen to be clear and sharp. Web browsing, office work, inking, ebooks have all been fine. Viewing pictures and video on the device appears vibrant and well colourised. Being an LED screen backlight bleeding can always be a concern but on this unit at least I can find no noticeable bleeding. The 400nits rated screen brightness is also powerful and offers an excellent viewing experience.

Its no secret that some are militantly married to their Full HD or retina displays and whilst I cannot claim to be in love with them to that extent I do prefer a FHD display wherever possible, so I was curious to see if this would be an issue with this device and the atom range in general (all limited to HD). To my surprise it hasn’t been an issue. If I put the ipad 3 and the Samsung side by side of course you can see the difference but the devices don’t detract from one another in the sense that it goes back to what I said above, the smart pc screen still looks clear and vibrant and text appears sharp.
For me I would say the biggest downside of the screen has been its magnetic attraction to fingerprints.

Video playback

This is another area where the Clover trail atom delivers and will exceeds people’s expectations of the Atom processor.

720p and 1080p video plays as smooth as butter.

As well as playing smoothly the videos looked good on the screen and I have already clocked up a couple of unexpected hours watching videos on the unit. If its not enabled in the software by default (cyberlink for example) just enable hardware acceleration and you are away.
Running a full version of windows, quickly installing VLC player allowed the device to play everything that was thrown at it. The device was even able to multi-task most general things whilst the videos played either in the background or docked to the side with the handy split screen feature we’ve come to enjoy since Win7.

Inking

Microsoft have a long history of innovation and implementation around Inking. I genuinely think its safe to say that Inking is Microsoft’s domain and after all these years it will be nice to see the technology they have tried to promote since the first tablets, finally reach the masses. Powered by the Industry leading Wacom digitiser technology the Samsung delivers a smooth and lag free inking experience right out of the box.

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There was some concern amongst inkers and those who had already said goodbye to paper, that the atom processor may not be enough to produce a fluid, lag free inking experience but I can confirm - the atom clover trail processor delivers a lag free fluid inking experience..

Whilst the inking itself is smooth and fluid as it keeps with your actual handwriting, the lasso or selection tool – at least in OneNote 2013 – can be laggy, but this is likely due to the indexing OneNote seems to do. Hopefully this will be corrected in a future update but its only an issue if you want to convert a packed full page of inked notes to text. It’s also curiously worth noting that the metro based One Note MX and Samsung S Note Mini apps do both lag within the Metro UI. Much like the lasso in one note though this is a software issue rather than a hardware one and not anything I think should detract users as the Windows Journal, full S Note software and importantly the very powerful One Note all provide a fluid and true inking experience.

Its great to be back to a windows tablet with a proper digitiser. This is the first tablet (range of tablets), due to the all-day battery life, weight and the smooth inking experience that I believe would allow businesses - or those using these for business – and students to actually ditch paper all together. When you combine that with some of the powerful features of One Note it certainly makes for an attractive premise and thus far it is working well for me.

Inking Comparison

Some readers may be thinking that they have seen styluses and note taking possible on the ipad for example. This is true, there certainly are styluses available for the ipad however these are not active digitisers and so the difference in the inking experience itself is like night and day. Even though some of the ipad capable styluses now feature pressure sensitivity and a more refined point (although still large due to the nature of capacitive displays) they then lack the palm rejection technology inherent in active digitiser technology and without which just goes back to that night and day experience between the two. Even if this does eventually make it into a software and hardware solution for these devices, Windows and OneNotes handwriting recognition and inking capabilities are simply years ahead of anything to be found on the platform. So again, if you are serious about wanting to move to digital ink and ditch the paper, I genuinely believe this range offers you the strongest option for achieving that task and or goal.

S-Pen Stylus

Just like the Galaxy Note, the Smart PC comes with an inbuilt Wacom active stylus or S-Pen - as Samsung calls it - delivering 1024 points of pressure sensitivity for all your inking needs.

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Whilst the s-pen does the job overall it is quite a small stylus and only featuring one button and no eraser its on the lesser side of styluses I have used. The good news is that since the Smart PC utilises a Wacom digitiser you have a range of alternative styluses you can purchase which will work on this units screen, even styluses with eraser functionality.

For me I see the s-pen as more of a handy addon as not every Windows 8 tablet that has inking capabilities has an inbuilt stylus silo. There is nothing worse than losing your stylus or heading into a meeting and not having it on you, so for me this was an important consideration and backup. It may also factor into your buying considerations as the Asus and HP offerings for example will require the stylus purchased as a separate accessory (these can be up to $50).

The only other criticism some will have with the S-pen is the actual silo. As mentioned above its great that it has this inbuilt but there’s no denying its really tightly in built. This is good in the sense that you should have no fear of your s-pen falling out and going walk abouts on the other hand it can be tricky to get out of the silo and based on one of my female colleagues test drives of the unit, I recommend being careful using your nails to do so.

Performance - The Power of the Atom

It’s no secret that in recent years Atom processors have not enjoyed the best of reputations. Often considered cheap and poor performing and made all the worse by being used with even cheaper components to produce those low cost netbooks. This has often resulted in a frustratingly slow and lag ridden experience for consumers. The new dual core 1.8ghz Clover Trail atom processor throws the past out the window and delivers an exceptionally capable, snappy and smooth user experience.

• Day to day use applications like Internet explorer open instantly are quick and response and show no signs of stressing the processor. Same for youtube etc
• Multi-tasking and switching between desktop and metro apps is smooth and flawless
• Office applications like OneNote and Word open in less than 1.5 seconds or simply just as quick as they do on your desktop.
• The device carves through 720p and 1080p content smoothly and without issue
• IE10 in the metro interface is a quick and enjoyable experience on the tablet.

The only negative I could throw at the processor – and I’m inclined to think it more a software issue – is the performance of Metro apps. Much like on the surface they can take several seconds to initialise, generally once they are loaded the performance is great with the exception of the inking experience. For reasons unknown the metro based apps of OneNote MX and S Note Mini do lag when inking but I will stress again the desktop inking applications load quickly, run smooth and fluid.

Gaming

I must admit I am surprised how many people have asked me directly or just looking on other forums how often people ask about the gaming capabilities of these devices. Simply put, this device was not built for gaming. As you might imagine though some have tried, so the below video shows you how WoW runs on this device

Photoshop

Being a full windows based x86 tablet it can indeed run photoshop. The software starts quite quickly and is surprisingly descent for viewing psd files and content creation on small canvasses. It doesn’t however take much to produce lag or stress the processor; selecting a large enough brush size will demonstrate its limitations quite quickly. If content create and working with large canvasses and many layers is your thing than you are going to have to consider the surface pro or one of the oem pro models. (The only downside with the pro models is that the PS UI does not scale and is thus quite small on the FHD displays).

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Video Processing

This is another category of things to do on a pc that I wouldn’t purchase this unit for. Nevertheless much like the gaming someone has tested it so see the video below

http://www.youtube.c...d&v=0bF3kiikxCc

Overall I am pleasantly surprised and very happy with the power of the new atom processor. For day to day or business usage the Smart PC hasn’t missed a beat. I think if you do your research and consider why you want a tablet then its pretty hard to be disappointed and depending on what you expect out of an atom based pc you may be pleasantly surprised at the smooth and quick experience you get.

Speakers and sound

The smart pc touts dual stereo speakers which have been nicely placed as thin slivers on the front of the device. It’s nice to have a tablet where the speakers have been placed in such a sensible position.

Camera

The front facing camera worked without issue for skype and the quality was what we have come to expect from front facing cameras. Up until this point I have never really used the rear camera of a tablet but using this device to annotate a lot (inking) and making great use of OneNote to say goodbye to paper I have found the rear camera quite handy for quickly recording, sometimes scanning in –sort of (better cameras needed) – documents on the go. This is mainly centred around my business usage: a quick snap, drop the image into one note so I can review/record or annotate later, in some instances if you get the quality of the image correct OneNote will also be able to convert text in the image to text on the page.

The output from the speakers is quite audible, I don’t have any methods of measuring this other than saying music listening/movie watching wasn’t an issue and the speakers are more audible than those on the surface. They aren’t without drawbacks though and certainly lack some bass which at higher volumes can give it a ‘tinny’ sound. For most usage though it was fine and as you would expect the sound output from the headphones is abundant and sounds good removing the issues with ‘tinnyness’ from the speakers at the highest volumes.

Docking Stations

The docking station for the Smart PC is a handy addon not only giving you a mechanism to sit and pivot your tablet but the full sized keyboard backs isolated keys with great tactile response which delivers an easy to use and full featured keyboard experience. The trackpad on the docking station allows for multi-touch gestures and these take some time to get use to and avoid. Initially I found myself performing them without intention whilst trying to drive the device. After using it for some time I am use to the trackpad now but its definitely on the lower end of the spectrum for trackpad quality.
Besides a keyboard and trackpad the docking station also provides two more USB 2.0 ports for the device.

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The tablet part of the device locks into the docking station reasonably easy and once locked in has a great grip - even allowing you to life the unit by the display if needed.

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Fully open with the Dock Attached, good viewing angle for typing

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Closed with the dock attached

There is some confusion surrounding if the Samsung docking stations have a battery in them and I can confirm they do not (the pro model docking station for the 700T does not either). This is of course an advantage in the sense that the keyboard dock is lighter than those being offered by the competition (Asus 810C / HP Envy X2) but where that is not a concern than you are missing out on a further battery which in the case of the Asus delivers potentially up to 19 hours of battery.

Operating System and Software

Windows 8 is still quite young but has already taken its share of beatings from many a commentator and user. Perhaps the mismatched UI that does not separate a touch experience from the desktop and touch devices is to blame. I’m not really going to discuss windows 8 in great detail other than to say on this device Windows 8 and its new UI really shines.

Having the power of a full operating system backed up by a capable processor and an all day battery is something many of us have been waiting to see for a long time. I liked my short play with the MS surface but having a full OS just makes things so much easier not having to worry about if there is an app for this and that etc.

Bloatware?

It is disappointing that out of the box the device comes with an assortment of well, bloatware such as Norton Internet Security trial…despite Windows 8 shipping with the new and integrated Windows Defender. None the less performance did not seem to be too impacted except for internet browsing in desktop IE.

One of the new Windows 8 features allows you to wipe the device with ease to solve this problem quickly - I will caution you not to use this option to hastily though, after doing this despite the Samsung Software updater it took quite a bit of fiddling to get all the drivers back on the device and for a short time until everything was loaded back on the inking experience did not feel as good. For cautious users perhaps just going through and uninstalling the pre-packaged software will be the preferred solution. That being said you do always have the option to restore to factory defaults. The system won’t let you use any of these options until you are connected to a power source.

I will also say for anyone who purchases these that the first firmware update can take a long time to install so don’t panic if it seems frozen – its not!

Software Freedom

Just on the software front, I will say it’s a welcome change not being tied down to any one piece of software. I can transfer files, music, videos anything any number of ways, I don’t need to buy 3rd party apps or do this and that, it just does it out of the box. I don’t want to sound Bias as my iPad has served me well, but saying goodbye to itunes as well as paper is just an added bonus of this device.

Conclusion about the Smart PC Pro

The new clover trail atom processor and all of the components of this device come together to deliver a tablet experience that is going to please and surprise many people. In most instances of day to day usage, business and or student usage, the device delivers an impeccably smooth user experience, slicing through tasks with ease.

The landscape based 11.6” display really opens you up to some extra multitasking capabilities with the Windows split screen mode or even the metro apps snap view mode.

The build quality of the device could be better but overall, all things considered, for a first gen product I feel Samsung has got a lot of things right here and for my own use I have not come across any show-stoppers and could comfortably recommend this device if it’s the right tool for your needs.
I would recommend these atom range of tablet pcs for Business users, students, portable enthusiasts or anyone who is not expecting to run games but wants to do more than just browse the net and play movies (see below).


#2 OP Osiris

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:29

Tablets, selecting the right tool for the job in the age of compromise

This is somewhat separate from the review but I want to take a moment to just talk about selecting the right tablet pc as some of the questions floating around and consumer perception has me concerned.

The power of this new generation of tablets from the RT, atom right through to the pro based ones is impressive and lays the ground work for what I suspect will be the start of a Windows tablet resurgence. That being said, there is no ‘god’ tablet or tablet that is going to tick every box and you really need to think about what your needs and uses are to avoid disappointment and maximise your usage and satisfaction with any tablet device you choose – from one of these to an iPad to Android etc.

This comes down to 2 things, selecting the right tablet for you at a macro level and then at a micro level.

At a macro level if your requirements from a tablet are web-browsing and media watching, I wouldn’t necessarily recommend an atom based tablet to you. Yes, they can do those things but there are 1) simpler 2) cheaper 3) more proven 5) lighter – devices out there just as capable of performing those tasks. Conversely if games is what you are looking for then you aren’t going to find it with a tablet and would be better investing the same (or less) amount of money in an ultrabook that has discrete graphics. If you thinking inking is ridiculous and can’t see yourself using it then that makes your choices even simpler again. Is graphics work primarily what you will use this for? excellent glad that you know that because that makes your choice even simpler.

At a microlevel the compromises become a bit easier to consider. Looking at some of the field in comparison to the Samsung Smart PC (Could do this with any of the devices):

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* Depending on your point of view 10” could be good or bad so have included it in both.

The Asus 810 is the closest match to the Samsung smart pc but even with that whilst I am still interested in the unit for me a stylus silo is a pretty important requirement and since using the Smart PC I would probably say having USB on the tablet whilst not critical is definitely nice. Now the Dell Latitude 10 and Lenovo Think Pad Tablet 2’s would meet my requirements of having inbuilt styluses but then the compromise there becomes we go back to 10” screens, although we go down in weight a bit too.

Same considerations are going to be true with the Surface Pro and any oem based pro model. The trade off is going to be the price, the weight, the shorter battery life. That being said users of the Samsung Smart Pc Pro are reporting 6 hours of constant use, maybe that’s enough to get you through the work day? Maybe the near 1kg weight won’t be an issue for you if you intend to dock these devices a lot.

I am not convinced I have demonstrated the compromise / trade-offs well enough with the above but with the range of Win8 tablets coming (hopefully soon!) there is probably the right tablet out there for you, but you need to consider carefully what you want as at this stage ‘the powerful processor, orgasmically good build quality, all day battery, light weight, full HD display, ports galore, not over-priced’, god tablet does not exist yet.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:33

Nice article :o

EDIT::
If I might just ask, what's the price for one of these guys? O.o

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:47

Agreed, great job!

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:25

Nice article :o

EDIT::
If I might just ask, what's the price for one of these guys? O.o


Cheers, it retails for circa $893 AUD with dock.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:54

Very nice review.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:57

Great review.

In regards to hibernation, I think Windows 8 turns this on by default because it's used for the new sleep mode. An easy way to check is to install windirstat and see if the hiberfile is present and taking up disk space.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:27

Awesome review, added to main http://www.neowin.ne...smart-pc-xe500t (Y)

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:50

I was looking at one of these, but the "optional" 3G/LTE is not available from anywhere. I'm thinking that this is another case of Australia not having the same options as everywhere else.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:55

Nice review, especially on the digitizer. I was looking for that info. Too bad it hasn't got an eraser button/option, but maybe that's not a big of a deal in most painting apps. But to be honest, I hardly use the eraser button on my tablet.

Anything on covers for this one, as the plastic back looks like it will not survive a week without scratches....

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:01

VLC for video decoding isn't exactly a good choice. VLC player does some funny sh*t to the HD videos hence it's always has lower CPU usage than other decoders. There has been a few topics that I have posted in when people talk about VLC. If you want to see a real comparison then try using some LAV filters or FFDShow, though I might add LAV ones are better (more faster decoding).

#12 OP Osiris

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:25

Nice review, especially on the digitizer. I was looking for that info. Too bad it hasn't got an eraser button/option, but maybe that's not a big of a deal in most painting apps. But to be honest, I hardly use the eraser button on my tablet.

Anything on covers for this one, as the plastic back looks like it will not survive a week without scratches....

rob


Hi Rob, yeah im a bit the same, you can always purchase a $20 thinkpad stylus off ebay and the eraser will work but of course wouldn't fit the SIlo etc.

Yes cases are starting to flow from Belkin and Incipto, folio ones anyway

Belkin: http://www.att.com/s...bid=RpqlJqMOKYw
Incipio: http://www.att.com/s...bid=RpqlJqMOKYw

#13 Christoph Kung

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:27

Thanks for the review!

Regarding gaming performance, I'm still seeing Atom Z2760 machines as a platform for legacy games. For a specific audience, this is an added value. :)

Could you please try out the following games (or similar ones):
- Master of Orion II (was smooth on my 300 MHz Intel Celeron CPU in 1998)
- Jagged Alliance 2 (was smooth on the same machine)
- Starcraft I (was smooth on the same machine)
- Startopia (should rather require sth. around Pentium 4 w/ low-end dedicated graphics at that time, had this kind of machine in 2004)
- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (same with last machine - will probably make the device have an instant fan base)



you can get these games (all except for Starcraft I) via GOG.COM .

Please let me know if the price on the website is an issue. Maybe the guys will give you free access

#14 OP Osiris

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:34

Hi Chris, im still sceptical of these being good tools for gaming but I actually have MOO2 and SC1 laying around somewhere so will test those for you.

#15 Dutchie64

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 13:06

Hi Osiris,

thanks for the links. I like the Incipio cover a lot.

This ATIV is probably the best option out there, if you're looking for battery life - and- some painting/note taking capabilities.
It will not replace my workstation, so the lesser 'umph' for graphics/video will not bother me.
Running your regular Windows apps too is great, and I can see myself running my ebook library on this, as some painting apps, in addition to OneNote and Evernote. Especially the Metro OneNote is great!

I only wish there was an option to buy it without the keyboard dock, so far I couldn't find a shop that was over here.

rob