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[size=2]Eric and Sade-Lea Tekoniemi stand in their home, where a gruesome double murder took place in 1996. They are suing the real estate firm, [/size]
[size=2]agent and former owners.[/size]

Eric and Sade-Lea Tekoniemi thought they had bought their dream home in Bowmanville last fall.

But it turned into a house of nightmares after they learned it had been the scene of a horrific double murder 15 years earlier.

That discovery has now led to a lawsuit against the real estate firm, an agent and the house

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I'm not sure who's crazier, the guy who killed his mother, or these people.

Fun fact, if you live in an old house, there's a really good chance someone died in it.
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Only in Canada..

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Canadian Horror story anyone? :p

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Panic attacks? Because of something that happened 15 years ago, completely unrelated?

Some people are so ridiculous...
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[quote name='threetonesun' timestamp='1353446939' post='595337448']
I'm not sure who's crazier, the guy who killed his mother, or these people.

Fun fact, if you live in an old house, there's a really good chance someone died in it.
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the amounts they are suing for and some of the reasons may be frivolous but there is a requirement to disclose issues like this as stated in the article quoting the regulating council, so there is merit in that. Things like a grow house, murders or anything that affects the value of the property must be disclosed. so yes, call them crazy, idiots etc... for being scared but there is still some merit.

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My old house was build on an old slaughterhouse. Some say at night you could hear the faint sound of chickens clucking.
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[quote name='linsook' timestamp='1353447648' post='595337460']
the amounts they are suing for and some of the reasons may be frivolous but there is a requirement to disclose issues like this as stated in the article quoting the regulating council, so there is merit in that. Things like a grow house, murders or anything that affects the value of the property must be disclosed. so yes, call them crazy, idiots etc... for being scared but there is still some merit.
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Grow house, sure, it's illegal. Murder? Suicide? Hard to say that really affects the value of the house any more than, say, the street number. Some Chinese people avoid places with "4" in them the way Westerners avoid places with "13" in them. If you didn't know that before buying, could you then sue, claiming it lowered the value of the house?

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What would happen if the place used to be a den of iniquity with wild sex parties and living in the house turned you into a sexed crazed fornicator? Could you also sue? :rolleyes:

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[quote name='threetonesun' timestamp='1353448692' post='595337496']
Grow house, sure, it's illegal. Murder? Suicide? Hard to say that really affects the value of the house any more than, say, the street number. Some Chinese people avoid places with "4" in them the way Westerners avoid places with "13" in them. If you didn't know that before buying, could you then sue, claiming it lowered the value of the house?
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Sounds like it may be differences in culture. I'm assuming you're not Asian because it's pretty much a deal breaker if any murder ever occurred in the house. The difference with the superstitions you bring up is that they are information easily verified by the potential buyer and is also his/her responsibility. Murder is not something a potential buyer can readily find out or think to ask. It might not faze you to live in a home where murder occurred, not just natural death (even some would object to that), but that doesn't mean it can't faze someone else. Murder is not a trivial matter.

With that said, I believe real estate agents are only legally required to disclose murders/deaths within a certain amount of years. It's already borderline unethical business to hide information about murder past a certain point in order to get a sale. Make it a gruesome murder like the one here and it's pretty damn terrifying imagery the residents have to live with.

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[quote name='threetonesun' timestamp='1353448692' post='595337496']
Grow house, sure, it's illegal. Murder? Suicide? Hard to say that really affects the value of the house any more than, say, the street number. Some Chinese people avoid places with "4" in them the way Westerners avoid places with "13" in them. If you didn't know that before buying, could you then sue, claiming it lowered the value of the house?
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well the council that regulates the real estate industry for where this transaction was made is quoted in the article saying the agent had a duty to disclose but failed to do so. googling around shows that in canada, only in quebec there is a law for murder disclosure, in the other provinces its a grey area ethical issue. some states in the US it is also required by law and in others, another grey area ethics issue. if it eventually goes to canadas top court, the matter will set a precedent.

the real estate agent may not have done anything illegal, yet, but will probably lose his licence to sell in that province.

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Free ghosts -- what's the problem ... ? :p
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I think they bought the house and realize it's not what they wanted, so now they make up some silly story to get some of their money back.

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I'm kind of torn on this one. I don't really want to support them, however I can see how that could mess with your mind after you learn a fact like that so it's kind of hard not to.

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what about the murders on the ground the house was built? don't know the likelihoods of it, but on the same ground where any house is built, as some point in time, someone could have died, been murdered, been buried etc....

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Bottom line here is all info should be disclosed to the buyer and in this case it wasn't regardless if it was a double murder or a flooded bathroom from the crapper stopping up.

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[quote name='rippleman' timestamp='1353517427' post='595339574']
what about the murders on the ground the house was built? don't know the likelihoods of it, but on the same ground where any house is built, as some point in time, someone could have died, been murdered, been buried etc....
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thats not the issue here.

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isn't there a full disclosure clause or something when selling a house?

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[quote name='Dushmany' timestamp='1353551633' post='595341118']
isn't there a full disclosure clause or something when selling a house?
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for material facts. like building damage, electrical issues, liens etc... murder, suicides, deaths are in a grey area.

'material facts are defined to be those that would affect a reasonable person's decision to buy or sell'

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