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[vcfan]

According to Bill Veghte of Microsoft, Microsoft projected to sell 177 Million copies of Windows.....7 at the end of the year 2009. Windows 7 was released October 22, 2009. So how many copies did Microsoft sell by the end of 2009?

http://www.tgdaily.c...nts-by-year-end


60 million. That's almost 1/3 of their projections. And how much did Windows 7 eventually sell? 700 mill

To quote Ricky Roma(some of you will understand),

You never open your mouth until you know what the shot is

[PGHammer]

vcfan, on 21 November 2012 - 01:17, said:

According to Bill Veghte of Microsoft, Microsoft projected to sell 177 Million copies of Windows.....7 at the end of the year 2009. Windows 7 was released October 22, 2009. So how many copies did Microsoft sell by the end of 2009?

http://www.tgdaily.c...nts-by-year-end


60 million. That's almost 1/3 of their projections. And how much did Windows 7 eventually sell? 700 mill

To quote Ricky Roma(some of you will understand),

You never open your mouth until you know what the shot is

Booming eceonomy (7) vs. crappy economy (8) - not exactly a fair comparison.

In fact, can anyone name a version of Windows that released in an economy even close to being this bad?

For all the sniping over the differences in Windows 7 vs. 8 being why folks aren't upgrading, at the end of the day, it's still just one more excuse to NOT upgrade - the real driver for staying pat being a poor economy.

[thealexweb]

PGHammer, on 21 November 2012 - 15:52, said:

Booming eceonomy (7) vs. crappy economy (8) - not exactly a fair comparison.

In fact, can anyone name a version of Windows that released in an economy even close to being this bad?

For all the sniping over the differences in Windows 7 vs. 8 being why folks aren't upgrading, at the end of the day, it's still just one more excuse to NOT upgrade - the real driver for staying pat being a poor economy.

The economy wasn't awesome in 2009 -.^

[Lord Method Man]

PGHammer, on 21 November 2012 - 15:52, said:

Booming eceonomy (7) vs. crappy economy (8) - not exactly a fair comparison.

In fact, can anyone name a version of Windows that released in an economy even close to being this bad?

For all the sniping over the differences in Windows 7 vs. 8 being why folks aren't upgrading, at the end of the day, it's still just one more excuse to NOT upgrade - the real driver for staying pat being a poor economy.

Booming economy in 2009? What the motherf*** are you talking about?

[Astra.Xtreme]

PGHammer, on 21 November 2012 - 15:52, said:

Booming eceonomy (7) vs. crappy economy (8) - not exactly a fair comparison.

In fact, can anyone name a version of Windows that released in an economy even close to being this bad?

For all the sniping over the differences in Windows 7 vs. 8 being why folks aren't upgrading, at the end of the day, it's still just one more excuse to NOT upgrade - the real driver for staying pat being a poor economy.

Booming economy? 2009 was in the height of the global recession. We're much better now than we were back then.

The booming economy was during the XP days and prior.

[PGHammer]

Astra.Xtreme, on 21 November 2012 - 15:57, said:

Booming economy? 2009 was in the height of the global recession. We're much better now than we were back then.

The booming economy was during the XP days and prior.

No - actually we aren't - neither globally or even just in the US.

Until the labor participation rate (LPR) gets even back to when it was when Bush the Younger LEFT office, we aren't even back to 2009 levels.

The economy is worse now than when even Windows 7 launched, and Windows 8 has the SAME hardware requirements as 7 - not exactly a reason to upgrade (either hardware OR OS) if you have Windows 7 already, is it?

Between the still-crappy economy, and the basically flat hardware requirements (compared to 7), what is there to drive either hardware OR OS upgrades - even assuming that Windows 8 were unchanged from Windows 7? (I'm citing Windows 8's critics, mind - my opinion on Windows 8 is known.)

[thealexweb]

PGHammer, on 22 November 2012 - 13:10, said:

The economy is worse now than when even Windows 7 launched, and Windows 8 has the SAME hardware requirements as 7 - not exactly a reason to upgrade (either hardware OR OS) if you have Windows 7 already, is it?

Vista had the same requirements as 7.

[firey]

Also.. 8 retails for < 100$ 7 was> > $100. I don't think the economy is at fault.

[MFH]

It's just so convenient claiming the economy is the reason why Windows 8 is well bellow projections...

[MorganX]

Wait until after Christmas season PC sales. If they're still that far behind projections, there may be a problem.

The questions to ask are:

"Why buy Windows 8?"
"Is it easy to use/figure out?"
"What compelling reason is there to buy Windows 8?"
"What can I do better with Windows 8?"
"Is there anything I want to do that I need Windows 8 for, that I can't easily do now with what I have?"
"What great apps are available for Windows 8 Tablets?"
"Does Windows 8 and Windows 8 Phones just work like my iPad and iPhone?"
"Can I easily manage my music and videos on a Windows 8 Phone or Tablet? Like my iPad or iPhone."

I'm not sure MS asked or answered any of those questions internally, even to this day.

[TRC]

PGHammer, on 21 November 2012 - 15:52, said:

Booming eceonomy (7) vs. crappy economy (8) - not exactly a fair comparison.

Ha ha, wow. I know the Windows 8 white knights are getting desperate but come on. Booming economy in 2009?

[GP007]

firey, on 22 November 2012 - 13:19, said:

Also.. 8 retails for < 100$ 7 was> > $100. I don't think the economy is at fault.

There were free upgrade deals for Windows 7 as well as the family pack that gave you 3 copies for $150. The $40 digital upgrade or the $70 for the DVD for Win8 is pretty much the same thing. OEM/System builder copies of both OS's are close to the same as well. The price difference isn't as drastic as you make it sound. The economy does come into play, saying 2009 wasn't better than where we are now in 2012 would be silly. Lots of countries are in worse positions than back in 2009, it's a fact.

[Pygmy_Hippo]

thealexweb, on 22 November 2012 - 13:14, said:

Vista had the same requirements as 7.

I think the thing was that everbody perceived Vista to be a poor OS (even though most were just parroting things that they'd heard elsewhere) that they should get shut of as soon as possible, so when 7 came out and got good reviews plenty of people wanted the upgrade. The Windows 8 reviews are like that of Marmite, you love it or hate it, and you will have to learn new ways of doing things - so most non pc-literate people are probably going to save their cash and stay with what they know (until they buy a new pc and it comes preinstalled).

[Enron]

PGHammer, on 21 November 2012 - 15:52, said:

Booming eceonomy (7) vs. crappy economy (8) - not exactly a fair comparison.

Surely you meant to say bombing economy, right?

[hagjohn]

PGHammer, on 21 November 2012 - 15:52, said:

Booming eceonomy (7) vs. crappy economy (8) - not exactly a fair comparison.

In fact, can anyone name a version of Windows that released in an economy even close to being this bad?

For all the sniping over the differences in Windows 7 vs. 8 being why folks aren't upgrading, at the end of the day, it's still just one more excuse to NOT upgrade - the real driver for staying pat being a poor economy.

There were no tablets when 7 came out either. 7 was talked up while 8 is being talked down, so that will effect peoples decision.