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Mr Nom Nom's, on 23 November 2012 - 13:54, said:

If he is a qualified baker, that is, he studied for an apprenticeship etc. then he should head overseas because I know at least where I work there are demands for qualified bakers left, right and centre which can't be filled by locals. $35K at least where I live can go along way.

Would a "qualified baker" work at hostess pushing buttons on huge machines to mass bake sugary snacks?

You'd think a qualified baker would work in a real store or restaurant making fancy real cakes for weddings, and such, alot more money doing that, plus its real baking.

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muggerfugger, on 23 November 2012 - 14:01, said:

Would a "qualified baker" work at hostess pushing buttons on huge machines to mass bake sugary snacks?

You'd think a qualified baker would work in a real store or restaurant making fancy real cakes for weddings, and such, alot more money doing that, plus its real baking.

I assume if they're (the original article) are going to throw around terms that maybe they should call them a 'kitchen hand' given that the term baker implies a person who is actually a trained baker who works in a bakery.

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$35k including overtime? And $10k less than he was making before?

Yeah, I can see why they'd walk out. If you think a job is so sacred that you should never give it up at any cost, you're going to get screwed by this economy.

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Again, Hostess was making $2.5billion in sales.

Typically labor cost is 30-40% - for 18,500 workers that's about $45k per employee (base), at the low end.

Teamsters workers were getting $18 - $19 per hour, or about $39k.

Apparently bakers union workers made significantly less than that if it took overtime to get $35k.

Bad management. Let the zombie die.