Draconian Guppy Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 All I care about is the fact that Neobond is making $36k a month. http://www.worthofwe...alue/neowin.net And how much do you figure server costs are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The site loads fine for me, but then again I use adblock :laugh: Davo 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 And how much do you figure server costs are? Most I've ever heard of was about $500 per month. But it's not like he's paying $34k per month. He created a great money tree. Can't be mad at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Most I've ever heard of was about $500 per month. But it's not like he's paying $34k per month. He created a great money tree. Can't be mad at that. Nope, IIRC it was around $5k back in 2009ish, then, neowin is owned by stardock, not neowin ;) $500 would probably be only storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelyn Harthbrooke Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I use AdBlock as well. I hate those annoying ads. Adblock does the job just fine for me so I'm happy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjf288 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 And how much do you figure server costs are? Not alot judging by how cheap BW and servers are these days. Even less if they actually own the servers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derkim Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Neowin needs 2-5 seconds to load a link. That's not fast for me. Fast is inside one second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Not alot judging by how cheap BW and servers are these days. Even less if they actually own the servers.... Perhaps if you rent space from Bluehost or something similar, but real hosting sure is expensive, especially managed hosting. I could see a thousand or two go into hosting Neowin every month. What's the bottleneck anyway? PHP processing or SQL queries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I'd have to agree with them. Usually it's slow in the afternoon for me. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayos Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Who's Alexa and why does it matter what she says? Steven P. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Slower than slow for at least the past month now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I removed Neowin from my whitelist in ABP as a test, and whilst page loads are quicker, the lag in submitting posts is still there, it always comes back within a couple of days of the devs rebooting the server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjf288 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 @jub why would they need managed hosting? Colo, remote reboot port or ipmi/amt and you are fine unless you encounter hardware failure. Dunno who bluehost are but you can get good colo or even server rental for less than a thousand a month and that's for like 3 servers. And even then you can keep spare hardware on hand for remote hands or fls assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 @jub why would they need managed hosting? It can be quite tricky to set up a good hosting environment. Also, can you give me a link for that 3 server for 1k deal? I'd be interested in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Blue Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 It always amazes me that Neowin's IT people resort to (whatever) to defend the sad performance of this website. The website is slow, Neowin. As in S L O W. It has been this way for a long time now. Almost every site I visit on the Internet loads just fine, except on rare occasions. Blaming your site's crappy performance as due to Facebook, and ads, is the ultimate cop-out. Even Yahoo, a site with a dozen or more external links which load in concert with their main page, is a Ferrari compared to Neowin's slug. You can feed us that "external factors" line all you want, but until your webmasters get off their rears and at least TRY to figure out the cause of the site's slowdown, it ain't gonna wash. As much as I like this site, I increasingly get the feeling that the site admins don't really care anymore. Oh, for the old days of Neowin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted November 22, 2012 MVC Share Posted November 22, 2012 I know the forum can be slow at times and I run AdBlock Plus* with the Easy List Annoyances List to block out Facebook and Twitter links (not a big fan of seeing these links or having them track my across my web usage). So I shouldn't be hit with slowness from Facebook, but I do get a fair bit of it every so often. * I'm also a Sub2 so I am sure to not deny Neowin the ad revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aergan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 in the past due to certain conditions some of the ads here would make chrome use 100% cpu... it would come and go depending on what ad. Had a flash add in the lower right pane that killed IE10 last night for me. Recovered webpage but didn't complain about the Nexus adds. I didn't see which one caused the crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 @jub why would they need managed hosting? Colo, remote reboot port or ipmi/amt and you are fine unless you encounter hardware failure. Dunno who bluehost are but you can get good colo or even server rental for less than a thousand a month and that's for like 3 servers. And even then you can keep spare hardware on hand for remote hands or fls assistance Last I recall, they had 5-7 servers and those were just covering it... It always amazes me that Neowin's IT people resort to (whatever) to defend the sad performance of this website. The website is slow, Neowin. As in S L O W. It has been this way for a long time now. Almost every site I visit on the Internet loads just fine, except on rare occasions. Blaming your site's crappy performance as due to Facebook, and ads, is the ultimate cop-out. Even Yahoo, a site with a dozen or more external links which load in concert with their main page, is a Ferrari compared to Neowin's slug. You can feed us that "external factors" line all you want, but until your webmasters get off their rears and at least TRY to figure out the cause of the site's slowdown, it ain't gonna wash. As much as I like this site, I increasingly get the feeling that the site admins don't really care anymore. Oh, for the old days of Neowin. It always amazes me that Neowin's IT people resort to (whatever) to defend the sad performance of this website. The website is slow, Neowin. As in S L O W. It has been this way for a long time now. Almost every site I visit on the Internet loads just fine, except on rare occasions. Blaming your site's crappy performance as due to Facebook, and ads, is the ultimate cop-out. Even Yahoo, a site with a dozen or more external links which load in concert with their main page, is a Ferrari compared to Neowin's slug. You can feed us that "external factors" line all you want, but until your webmasters get off their rears and at least TRY to figure out the cause of the site's slowdown, it ain't gonna wash. As much as I like this site, I increasingly get the feeling that the site admins don't really care anymore. Oh, for the old days of Neowin. Not adding to the flame war, but yeah, neowins revenue is exactly the same as yahoos ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeston Veteran Posted November 23, 2012 Veteran Share Posted November 23, 2012 It always amazes me that Neowin's IT people resort to (whatever) to defend the sad performance of this website. The website is slow, Neowin. As in S L O W. It has been this way for a long time now. Almost every site I visit on the Internet loads just fine, except on rare occasions. Blaming your site's crappy performance as due to Facebook, and ads, is the ultimate cop-out. Even Yahoo, a site with a dozen or more external links which load in concert with their main page, is a Ferrari compared to Neowin's slug. You can feed us that "external factors" line all you want, but until your webmasters get off their rears and at least TRY to figure out the cause of the site's slowdown, it ain't gonna wash. As much as I like this site, I increasingly get the feeling that the site admins don't really care anymore. Oh, for the old days of Neowin. If you think it's so bad and truly "like" the site, why don't you become a subscriber and help them with funds for new server hardware/better internet service instead of sitting there complaining about everything constantly... These threads are seriously getting old right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guth Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I have not read the whole topic, only the first page. Neowin used to be slow for me, then suddenly I noticed it was much much faster. I never really thought much about the cause, I thought it must have been some work behind the scenes. However, after reading the first page, I realise that when neowin started getting fast was when I installed Ghostery to chrome. A plugin that disables tracking and social network connections to name a few things. Specifically, the social network blocking has stopped the facebook stuff and I now see that this is what has sped things up for me. Its a great plug in and I really recommend everyone to give it a whirl. https://www.ghostery.com/ Ghostery tracks the trackers and gives you a roll-call of the ad networks, behavioral data providers, web publishers, and other companies interested in your activity. It also blocks all of those, not just tracks them. (you can choose what it blocks and what it doesn't) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Forum is a bit faster after I got my new router... but you still need to feed those poor hampsters... jimbo the space bimbo has gourmet hampster feed he will give you at a good price.... he gets it from the food galaxy... I was on planet HAM today gobbleing it up.... it regens too very fast... everyone should go there!!!. :D and jimbo the space bimbo approves inetu hosting... he told me about them actually and they are fast and are going intergalactic soon. you should check em out they will take care of everything as well and they feed thier hampsters very nicely. they are nice, plump and sooooo cuuuute!!! ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted November 23, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted November 23, 2012 I just thought I'd like to point out that I don't own any part of Neowin (or at least I don't think I do. *flips through scrap book* Nope, no agreements here) so it's not my site. My comment and graphic about Facebook was just from a members perspective. :rofl: I don't really regard Neowin as a slow site. It's just a bit of a beast from a technical point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikh Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 To be fair a lot of that slowness is due to Facebook. In fact.... I think you can definitely see the culprit here. Neowins code is actually quite quick. How, What, HUH!?!? What is this! I must know!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted November 23, 2012 Member Share Posted November 23, 2012 91% of sites are faster than Neowin. I ain't surprised. Neowin is the slowest site I visit by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted November 23, 2012 Veteran Share Posted November 23, 2012 What do you mean slow, does it take forever for the page to START to load, or the whole experience? If anything slowness wise, it might be slow to start, but once it does its near instant (in terms of the site itself) Size of the main page (with images) is roughly 770kb, without facebook it'd been even less, same with the twitter crap as well. Go compare it to other sites where you have 7mb main pages (verge :p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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