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#16 xendrome

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:19

Nah no one said that, theres two different issues. Site optimization which we did some of yesterday, then server optimization which is something that still needs to be addressed, but also IPB is gonna always run slower than the main page.


Disable the Facebook/Twitter stuff for 24 hours and lets see what happens..


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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:38

Neowin the website itself is not slow at all. It's not fast but not slow.

What is slow is the forum.

#18 DaveLegg

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 15:46

Cloudflare wouldn't help us with speed. We've tried them before, and they only caused headaches. Every ime we made a change to a css file for example, cloudflare would show the 'site offline' page for a good 5-10 minutes, amongst other issues. From what I can tell, the issue isn't slow database queries either. If you hit post and then half a second later, open the thread again in another tab, you'll see your post there, whilst the initial tab is still loading. Obviously IPB does a lot of additional processing after the post is submitted, and I have no idea what this processing entails, but it's clearly that which is causing the slow processing problem, and when we get time, we will look into that thoroughly.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:42

^ Well the DB may not be the main problem, but you have to admit that the DB has been somewhat of a problem lately with it taking a crap on itself every couple months causing abysmal slowdowns for a few days until it's either rebooted or manually cleaned

#20 remixedcat

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:05

Facebook is what slows it down....

#21 SuperKid

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:23

Im not sure if a Apache to nginx translation can be done overnight.......It might take some work.

I do agree that the latest version of PHP (and MySQL) should be used. Better yet, maybe MariaDB....


I have used MariaDB and yes It is faster, but it would take a lot of downtime for Neowin to convert to that. and nginx and php fpm makes a massive difference

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 22:30

I would suggest litespeed, however there is a little problem and to resolve it would not be pretty and a certain memberbase would be ****ed. so nope to that. PM me to find out why (subs only)

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 22:41

Nginx isn't faster at serving php content actually. FPM however would indeed be advisable, and of course, the lighter server load and static file serving of Nginx.

Also, apart from pricing, why would litespeed cause people problems?

Ultimately I don't think the entire issue can be solved by simply changing the environment. There's a lot to do with the IPB application itself no doubt.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 22:43

I would suggest litespeed, however there is a little problem and to resolve it would not be pretty and a certain memberbase would be ****ed. so nope to that. PM me to find out why (subs only)

Litespeed is not free, or rather the free version has too many limitations.

#25 remixedcat

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 22:57

that as well as something else....

#26 Redmak

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:10

We can't upgrade to PHP 5.4 just like that. We also use eAccelerator so well have to see if that works at all or drop it

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:38

I have used MariaDB and yes It is faster, but it would take a lot of downtime for Neowin to convert to that. and nginx and php fpm makes a massive difference


You are joking right?

MariaDB is a drop in replacement so no it wouldn't be alot of downtime.

PHP 5.4 has a compatible eaccelerator module however most commonly used are pecl-apc or xcache...

Nginx serves static a hell of alot faster, but you lose .htaccess (Not a problem in itself as long as you define the rewrites/etc in your server config)

Apache can run with php-fpm also via I think it was mod_fcgi(d) or something, never bothered looking into it as I prefer Nginx tbh..

#28 Steven P.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:55

I would suggest litespeed, however there is a little problem and to resolve it would not be pretty and a certain memberbase would be ****ed. so nope to that. PM me to find out why (subs only)


that as well as something else....


So helpful /s

#29 n_K

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 14:25

I mentioned it aged ago, give hiphop a try! You don't need to compile the code anymore, just use the hiphop binary in the directory of the files and see if it works!

#30 remixedcat

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:47

So helpful /s


has to do with a certain type of content not being allowed on litespeed servers.... google it...



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