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#31 neoadorable

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 07:56

backwards compatibility is nearly assured on both new consoles, don't worry. games won't be 15GB. more like 50GB. this will keep physical media alive a little longer, but i'm downloading 20GB-30GB games from Steam (Max Payne 3, AC3, etc.) and it only takes about 30-40 mins. That's very acceptable.

And Shakey the next consoles will make your PS3 look/feel like a PS2 at best...I doubt you'll be able to resist for very long :laugh:


#32 Jason Stillion

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:40

Wait, what? Are you saying the removal of hardware emulation on the PS3 didn't reduce the manufacturing cost of the PS3? :s


Removed to push PS3 sales, cost saving minor - http://kotaku.com/31...r-cost-measures

According to the Wall Street Journal's paraphrasing of SCEA boss Jack Tretton, the removal of PS2 backward compatibility and other components isn't "dramatically reducing Sony's cost of manufacturing" on Sony's behemoth console.

Instead, the handicapping of the PS3 was part of an effort to "encourage buyers of the entry-level PlayStation 3 to purchase more games designed specifically for the new system." If only there were some other ways of doing that outside of ripping out the PS3's ability to play PS2 games better than an actual PS2 in so many cases.



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Posted 02 December 2012 - 11:07

backwards compatibility is nearly assured on both new consoles, don't worry. games won't be 15GB. more like 50GB. this will keep physical media alive a little longer, but i'm downloading 20GB-30GB games from Steam (Max Payne 3, AC3, etc.) and it only takes about 30-40 mins. That's very acceptable.

And Shakey the next consoles will make your PS3 look/feel like a PS2 at best...I doubt you'll be able to resist for very long :laugh:


Do you have a link of proof of this? Because that isn't what I heard (PS4 Backwards compat)

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 11:12

Am I the only one that really doesn't consider backwards compatibility a key feature? If I have old games to play, I have the old console too

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 04:27

Yogurt, no link and no proof per se, just common sense and hearing things from people in the industry. common sense because this time it will be even easier to implement, i believe.

Plus what T said is the perfect answer. when PS4 comes out your PS3 won't mysteriously stop working. Unless Sony remote brick them all somehow...

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:22

So is the PS4 still headed to AMD APU territory?

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:58

Yogurt, no link and no proof per se, just common sense and hearing things from people in the industry. common sense because this time it will be even easier to implement, i believe.

Plus what T said is the perfect answer. when PS4 comes out your PS3 won't mysteriously stop working. Unless Sony remote brick them all somehow...

backwards compatibility is most likely not going to happen with the PS4 because of the fact that Sony's pretty much confirmed that their switching to a x86 cpu over the custom cell processor used in the ps3
ps3 support would have to be emulated unless they included both CPUs and that would drive the price up quite a bit because the cell processor that Sony used was custom

Am I the only one that really doesn't consider backwards compatibility a key feature? If I have old games to play, I have the old console too

quite a few people consider it a key feature because they'll trade in their old system (at a limited time higher value) in order to not have to pay as much for the new system (aka college students and others that don't have the most money)

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 06:12

The problem with different Generation consoles is that they have been flip flopping architectures, it happened with the XBOX too, now there are rumors the xbox is going back to X86 as well!

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:12

Am I the only one that really doesn't consider backwards compatibility a key feature? If I have old games to play, I have the old console too

You're not. I don't consider it a key feature either.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 12:41

This is funny, Sony won't be calling it the "Playstation 4".

The number 4 has a negative connotation in Japan associated death. There most likely won't be any PPC BC support.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 14:50

This is funny, Sony won't be calling it the "Playstation 4".

The number 4 has a negative connotation in Japan associated death. There most likely won't be any PPC BC support.


Yeah, that is interesting. The number 4 and the word for death is pronounced the same in Japanese, "shi".

9 is ku which is the same as agony or torture.


I always thought the Japanese, while respecting their heritage, weren't superstious. Perhaps it won't influence the naming convention of the next PlayStation?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:21

Yeah, that is interesting. The number 4 and the word for death is pronounced the same in Japanese, "shi".

9 is ku which is the same as agony or torture.


I always thought the Japanese, while respecting their heritage, weren't superstious. Perhaps it won't influence the naming convention of the next PlayStation?


Speculation surmounted by more rumors

Sony opting to get rid of the Playstation name in favor of Orbis branding. I'm not quite convinced they'd ditch the Playstation branding.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:23

yeah i doubt they'd ditch the Playstation branding, it's too well known of a brand, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they ditched it

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:03

Speculation surmounted by more rumors

Sony opting to get rid of the Playstation name in favor of Orbis branding. I'm not quite convinced they'd ditch the Playstation branding.



Wait, what? It isn't "speculation", 4 and death in Japanese are pronounced the same. You made the first post about this issue. Or are you talking about the superstitious bit? It was just something I read somewhere. Still, not exactly speculation as much as it is reputation.

Who said anything about ditching the PlayStation branding. Were were talking about the next iteration and whether it will be "4" or if it'll be something else. It will still be "Playstation", but it mightn't be "Playstation 4" for the exact reason you mentioned.


Four is pronounced "shi" which is the same pronunciation as death. Nine is pronounced "ku" which has the same pronunciation as agony or torture.




http://japanese.about.com/blqow7.htm



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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:35

Sony would certainly ditch one of the most powerful and recognizable brands in the world just because of a anumber it chooses to append to each console generation. :rolleyes:

They'll just call it PlayStation Life to go along with Vita and be done with it.