remixedcat Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 reggie is one ugly mug.... LOL.... he makes internet explorer 7 crash hard once. he will revive netscape from the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted December 4, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted December 4, 2012 I'm no Nintendo fanboy at all, but have you looked at this gen's sales? Im not talking about sales, im referring to the general tech in the machines. They already feel dated. remixedcat 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Nintendo do have a point, the Wii lagged behind the PS3/X360 pretty badly yet it managed to not only keep up with them but surpassed them. Kinect/PS Move are direct reactions to the Wii's innovative motion control system. So yes, consumers don't just care about who has the prettier graphics and they [Nintendo] do set the trend (MS are already trying to replicate the WiiU tablet controller with the X360 and the rumoured Xbox 7" Surface tablet suggest MS plans to take this integration one step further). However, Nintendo shouldn't be getting too cocky. MS/Sony aren't going to let them just walk over them again and I expect both parties to offer much more complete offerings this time (since the Kinect/PS Move were knee jerk reactions over the immense popularity of the Wii motion controller, which both MS/Sony said would fall flat on it's face - they won't make that mistake again!). Nintendo's dominance this time is not assured and getting cocking this early will only end with them getting mud on their faces (look what happened to Sony with the PS3, they were so sure it would dominate like the PS2...). That is my 2 cents, take with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Black ops comparisons basically say the games either look identical or slightly worse on the wii, BUT the wii suffers from frame drops and lower frame rate during the whole game than the tether older consoles. From what I've read the only frame drops happen if you play Co-op mode with one person on the TV and one person on the gamepad at same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 4, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted December 4, 2012 What frustrates me the most isn't Nintendo releasing underpowered hardware, or a controller which I have no real use for (just like my motion controls), it's their innability to conform to standards and support proprietary codecs/media that hardly costs anything (Blu Ray/Dolby Digital). The standards part is mostly a dig at their online network, especially as of late the console accounts activation mess. You would of thought Nintendo as a fellow Japanese company would've studied how Sony had to conform to a better online infastructure. They get constantly excused or apology slavered because it's the Nintendo way, or the Wii U is treated as a unique beast compared to Sony/MS offerings - IMO though there are simply certain categories that you're up to scratch with competition or aren't, not much room for apologies, especially not after seeing how Sony had to learn from bad decisions and mistakes surrounding PSN. So Reggie, I don't take much from your words and will predict it will be some of Nintendo's prehistoric mindsets being questioned when the PS4/Next Xbox launch. That is of course unless Sony/MS do something really really craptastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 From what I've read the only frame drops happen if you play Co-op mode with one person on the TV and one person on the gamepad at same time. The reviews I've seen, which is the tech comparison done by the guys who do these things regularly. Single player is the worst, Multi player doesn't suffer very bad from framedrops. and CoOp does. which does point to what is the problem, the under powered CPU isn't capable of handling the AI. but oh well you don't need a half decent CPU if you have a half decent GPU I guess :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Nope, it's the Ouya they're going to have to react to. Tablet and smartphone gaming has been a major disruptor in what people are willing to spend (and economies of scale mean that devs can sell games for a lot less and still make money), and free to play gaming on the PC has changed things too. The Ouya is going to bring in both. There's the odd high budget game that you'd want to get on a console (Forza 4 for instance), but a lot of other ones could easily be done with a smaller budget and scaled down graphics (Catherine or Persona 5). The Wii U is doing a lot of stuff wrong - their marketing is terrible as nobody knows what it actually is. You've got people thinking it's an add on for the Wii like THQ's uDraw. They also still don't understand how to deliver a good online experience, and while using 2 screens seemed like a good idea based on the DS, you have to look up and down between the two screens with the Wii U rather than at both of them on the DS. There's the odd game that'll take advantage of the Wii U - Okami HD could be a good hit, as could another Fatal Frame, but that's about it. Then you have to think about what Sony has. Vita + PS3 gives you a much better experience than the Wii U, given you can actually take it with you, and then use it for the odd game that really benefits from the additional feature. Microsoft can also expand on Smartglass and offer a tablet + Xbox experience for the odd game that would really benefit as well. Nintendo had a decent idea that they're running with, but Microsoft and Sony can safely ignore them while wondering WTF they're going to do if Apple decides to get into console gaming, and keeping an eye on the effect the Ouya has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeBro Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Now what he fails to mention is naturally MS has Kinect, which I think it is a pretty safe bet to say is going to be deeply integrated into the next XBox experience, so MS they have it. I highly doubt Sony is going to consider Move to be their additional experience, but I also think that perhaps they may not come up with anything else along these lines, and just keep it more traditional. Wether this winds up hurting them or not remains to be seen, but I do think there are those people who will still want just the pure untampered gaming experience of just a controller. At least for the foreseeable future. I really think a whole lot depends on if MS makes Kinect something next level or not. Sony might combine the Dualshock and Move in one. I would like to call it the "DualShmove". Sony has patented such a hybrid controller and its recently been approved. But who knows if they're actually gonna use that. http://www.ign.com/a...ntroller-in-one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Nope, it's the Ouya they're going to have to react to. HAHAHAHA!! Ouya doesn't have an effect. it's a neat little project, but it's nothing. while the numbers for the Kickstarter sales seem impressive, in kickstarter scale. it amounts to less sales than the Xbox 360 has in ONE month. it's a fun little emulator toy, but it's no new console replacement or competitor to the big three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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