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I think there is a lot in this: "Jan found "amorous messages" from other men on her computer. He confronted her and a row ensued that led to police being called."

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He clearly fell in love with her, as a woman. He never saw her in her past so it's largely unimportant, and I assume the only reason he's actually using this as an excuse now is due to her suspected infidelity

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Am I the only one who thought his wife is 19years old?

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He clearly fell in love with her, as a woman.

I doubt this very much.

He fell in love with a body.

It takes two to tango: one needed a sex slave, another one needed a free ride in life and get out of Indonesia.

imho, both of them are selfish and stupid, despite being the masters of deception, coz they've wasted their only lives living a fake life.

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I doubt this very much.

He fell in love with a body.

It takes two to tango: one needed a sex slave, another one needed a free ride in life and get out of Indonesia.

imho, both of them are selfish and stupid, despite being the masters of deception, coz they've wasted their only lives living a fake life.

No he clearly fell in love with her as a person hence he went through the hassle of getting her into Belgium. I do not see anywhere that it's implied he just wanted a sex slave, you've perhaps embellished too much from the story. If she was disingenuous with her intentions at the start then yes he was a fool.

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No he clearly fell in love with her as a person hence he went through the hassle of getting her into Belgium. I do not see anywhere that it's implied he just wanted a sex slave, you've perhaps embellished too much from the story.

Anyone with a bride-mail-order mentality looking for a trophy wife would do that.

His status, their age difference, and their difference of backgrounds all suggest to me that that was the case.

And finally, the very fact that he did do this, instead of looking for an equal partner locally, is another reason. It was a pure deal - sex in exchange for a better standard of living of his wife. (What did he have to give to a Belgian woman that she didn't have already - nothing, that's why he resorted to an "easy sex scenario".)

Had he genuinely loved, cared for, and known his partner, he would have spotted "her" infidelity and true identity long ago. Possibly, if he did love "her", "she" wouldn't need a reason to cheat or it would be extremely difficult for "her" to pull it off as he would have had her attention all the time. So, I conclude, he only cared for himself and should have known better. Yes, he was naive and he was used by a scammer, but that's just life. He put himself into such a situation and is fully responsible for 19 years he has wasted. I have no pity for him.

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surely it wouldnt matter .... the feelings were for the woman he pretended to be ....not the man he is

then it obviously wasn't true love to begin with. if you truly love someone it's for their personality, not their body

No he clearly fell in love with her as a person hence he went through the hassle of getting her into Belgium. I do not see anywhere that it's implied he just wanted a sex slave, you've perhaps embellished too much from the story. If she was disingenuous with her intentions at the start then yes he was a fool.

if he had truly fell in love with her as a person he wouldn't care if she had turned out to be a guy

if something so miniscule can ruin your 19 year relationship then something is wrong and it was probably never true love to begin with

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Damn, I barely could read those two pages and the amount of stupid opinions (yes, you read that right) is intense.

You take your guess who this is directed at.

By the way, I think the fact she cheated on him apparently is multiple times worse than covering up a body you never identified with.

Glassed Silver:ios

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20years younger, sounds to me like he paid for her, id start a dispute with paypal goods are not as advertised :p lol

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How did they have sex and him not notice?

Cos she had an "inny" not and "outty"

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sounds like bum information to me :shifty:

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I have watched Maury we have guess who is a d00d and who is not and I am always correct which-is-which.

I know a d00d and I know a girl.

It's my male instinct.

I don't care how much others might think how fit an ex-d00d is and is now a girl.

I do not want a sex change.

I asked my girl, that if she would hit a girl, would she hit a lady boy, ''hell no'' was the answer; ''I want a woman that was born a woman and is a woman''.

I digress.

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I have watched Maury we have guess who is a d00d and who is not and I am always correct which-is-which.

I know a d00d and I know a girl.

It's my male instinct.

I don't care how much others might think how fit an ex-d00d is and is now a girl.

I do not want a sex change.

I asked my girl, that if she would hit a girl, would she hit a lady boy, ''hell no'' was the answer; ''I want a woman that was born a woman and is a woman''.

I digress.

Are we supposed to bow down to your superior ability to disrespect transgender individuals? There are many that even with your superpowers you would not be able to identify and claiming so only makes you appear foolish

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then it obviously wasn't true love to begin with. if you truly love someone it's for their personality, not their body

if he had truly fell in love with her as a person he wouldn't care if she had turned out to be a guy

if something so miniscule can ruin your 19 year relationship then something is wrong and it was probably never true love to begin with

surely when you love someone one a lie like this can destroy you ? or you can consider that everything else is a lie .... you can love someone but know when its stupid to stay with them or even try

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I have watched Maury we have guess who is a d00d and who is not and I am always correct which-is-which.

I know a d00d and I know a girl.

It's my male instinct.

The other possibility is that you've watched a bit too much shemale porn. :shiftyninja:

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I have watched Maury we have guess who is a d00d and who is not and I am always correct which-is-which.

I know a d00d and I know a girl.

It's my male instinct.

I don't care how much others might think how fit an ex-d00d is and is now a girl.

I do not want a sex change.

I asked my girl, that if she would hit a girl, would she hit a lady boy, ''hell no'' was the answer; ''I want a woman that was born a woman and is a woman''.

I digress.

From reading that I think you have a problem. Your girl wants another girl, leaving you to be the 3rd wheel :rofl:

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I can't believe no one hasn't posted this..

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I have watched Maury we have guess who is a d00d and who is not and I am always correct which-is-which. I know a d00d and I know a girl. It's my male instinct. I don't care how much others might think how fit an ex-d00d is and is now a girl. I do not want a sex change. I asked my girl, that if she would hit a girl, would she hit a lady boy, ''hell no'' was the answer; ''I want a woman that was born a woman and is a woman''. I digress.

I'm a transsexual (sans surgery, feel free to have a go at this, too please) and I must say I'm pretty offended.

I'm happy not to have to deal with people like you in real life.

Glassed Silver:mac

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I'm a transsexual (sans surgery, feel free to have a go at this, too please) and I must say I'm pretty offended.

I'm happy not to have to deal with people like you in real life.

Good for you! It's really sad that people have a problem with it in this day and age but so many people are highly intolerant of people who are different to them. Personally I like to express myself through clothing - usually colourful and unconventional - and it's sad that when I'm walking about there are people who shout abuse at me. It's the same when I ride my unicycle out and about, though I get dramatically more positive responses and complements for that.

It's a shame that people can't just leave others to be themselves.

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I'm a transsexual (sans surgery, feel free to have a go at this, too please) and I must say I'm pretty offended.

I'm happy not to have to deal with people like you in real life.

Glassed Silver:mac

OMG i feel so repulsed, i'm never reading any of your posts ever again! you're on my permanent ignore list! it's people like you scumbags of society! DIE, BURN IN FIREY CHRISTIAN Hell.. seriously, really, really BAD joke :p:blush: All of my love to you mate!

Really cool of you to be so cool about yourself :) The world would be a really happier place if we accepted each other.

I'm not really a "believer" But this is an obligated read for all those in this thread who have issues with accepting others ( be it, race, religion, sex etc.).

http://andrewschwab....ceptance-peace/

edit: typos

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I'm a transsexual (sans surgery, feel free to have a go at this, too please) and I must say I'm pretty offended.

I'm happy not to have to deal with people like you in real life.

Glassed Silver:mac

I respect you for having the courage to admit that on here. I have more than a few transgender friends and I am amazed with the strength they have to survive in this world, just to be themselves.

Good luck to you in your transition

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Why are people so bothered if someone is a man or a woman >.>

It's only a few differences :p

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I think my brain starts to warp with all this "is he a man, or she a man, or he a woman" sorta stuff Anyway you look at it, he got a raw deal, a faulty investment, a poor rating on his mail order bride, damaged goods....and he/she cheats on him :/:p

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I think my brain starts to warp with all this "is he a man, or she a man, or he a woman" sorta stuff

The simplest way to look at it is to accept the gender that the person in question associates with. And yes, that means that a genetic man that associates with the female gender should use the female restroom, regardless of whether they have had gender reassignment surgery; they aren't sex offenders or perverts and it's a poor reflection on modern society that separate restrooms are considered necessary.

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Wow, awful lot of bigots in here. She shouldn't have deceived her husband but it doesn't mean transgender people are inherently bad people.

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