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#31 OP Hum

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 18:58

I think I understand now what he meant by a white cloth/canvas.

The large area between the moon surface Scott is supposed to be standing on, and the hill in the background, is a very white area.

If you look at the larger version close up, it does look like it could be raised up, as a canvas or sheet might curl up at the edge, giving the impression that it is laying on top of the 'ground'.

Look at the left third of the picture, close up.

There looks like rover tracks on the dark dust surface, but not on the whiter area. The tracks suddenly end.

http://upload.wikime...2000-001114.jpg

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 19:08

I believe it and Capricorn One is true! :)

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 19:11

Hum, I just don't see it... Maybe I'm oblivious or something, but that just looks like it rolled over a tiny hill, and I don't see any white sheets to speak of.

Oh geez, I see it now, wow.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 19:14

Look at the left third of the picture, close up.

There looks like rover tracks on the dark dust surface, but not on the whiter area. The tracks suddenly end.

http://upload.wikime...2000-001114.jpg


That's because there's a creator its driven up on lol

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 19:15

The pic with the rover tracks is a dune type thing. The tracks probably go back up the upside of the dune. I don't see anything that shows a canvas. Also people have to understand there is no wind to cause erosion on the moon. So the craters have a lip of dust on them .Its not a sheet or canvas.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 19:17

I posted this to see what people thought -- unfortunately there aren't many intelligent replies.

I too, do not see the white sheet allegedly laying on the ground, and do not understand why there would be one, even on a movie set.

They may have sent men to the moon, however, it's pretty clear that none of the video or photographs were taken there.


For people who have a clue how light and photography works, it is in fact quite clear that all the videos and photographs where taken there.

as for the white sheet. there is no white sheet. it's called lighting based on geography. behind the astronaut the ground goes up in a small rolling "hill", there's then a brief drop in the terrain, making that terrain point away from the camera and thus can't be seen. it then goes back up again, as as it gets high enough to pop up behind the previous hill it gets visible again, and due to the angle of the up hill it's lighter, and thus you have a white "sheet", then it dips again further back, ad the hill in the background that's further back and thus send less light to the camera comes up behind it, and is darker from being further back and and angle from the sunlight. and voila there you have your magical white sheet, which really isn't, it's just sunshine on a rolling hill.

I think I understand now what he meant by a white cloth/canvas.

The large area between the moon surface Scott is supposed to be standing on, and the hill in the background, is a very white area.

If you look at the larger version close up, it does look like it could be raised up, as a canvas or sheet might curl up at the edge, giving the impression that it is laying on top of the 'ground'.

Look at the left third of the picture, close up.

There looks like rover tracks on the dark dust surface, but not on the whiter area. The tracks suddenly end.

http://upload.wikime...2000-001114.jpg


Of course the tracks end, as I explained to your previous post, it's a hilltop....

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 19:40

For people who have a clue how light and photography works, it is in fact quite clear that all the videos and photographs where taken there.

as for the white sheet. there is no white sheet. it's called lighting based on geography. behind the astronaut the ground goes up in a small rolling "hill", there's then a brief drop in the terrain, making that terrain point away from the camera and thus can't be seen. it then goes back up again, as as it gets high enough to pop up behind the previous hill it gets visible again, and due to the angle of the up hill it's lighter, and thus you have a white "sheet", then it dips again further back, ad the hill in the background that's further back and thus send less light to the camera comes up behind it, and is darker from being further back and and angle from the sunlight. and voila there you have your magical white sheet, which really isn't, it's just sunshine on a rolling hill.



Of course the tracks end, as I explained to your previous post, it's a hilltop....


In the picture right next to the Astronaut you can see more tracks from the rover, just a bit harder to see what with all the footprints that would cover up the tracks like it would in the real world

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 19:58

If you look at the larger version close up, it does look like it could be raised up, as a canvas or sheet might curl up at the edge, giving the impression that it is laying on top of the 'ground'.

Look at the left third of the picture, close up.

Conspiratorial desert shot. If anyone has the patience to adjust the colours to match the moon shots... feel free. Look at all those unnatural lines, etc.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 21:28

@Thommcg: Conspiratorial desert shot. If anyone has the patience to adjust the colours to match the moon shots... feel free. Look at all those unnatural lines, etc.



Only problem with your crappy analysis, is that there is ZERO weather on the Moon like there is on Earth [sic] "desert shot"!!

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 21:46

Only problem with your crappy analysis, is that there is ZERO weather on the Moon like there is on Earth [sic] "desert shot"!!


It is however blasted by rocks from space for millions of years :rolleyes:

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 21:46

Clearly the secret isn't being kept, with such websites. ;) No one is trying to discredit -- rather they are seeking the truth on a given event.


I like how you removed the most important part out of the quote... If there had been any reason to believe it was fake the Russians would certainly have made a big fuss about it.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 21:59

Honestly if you brought Hum to the moon itself showing a flag and the tracks, he'd still not believe it. It's almost a religion in its own right where the truth doesn't matter, only his perception full of wild explanations for proven facts.

He still wants to encourage discussion, and that's his agenda. If people get riled up about it, that's their problem, tbh these postings are better ignored rather than over than replied to.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 22:19

Honestly if you brought Hum to the moon itself showing a flag and the tracks, he'd still not believe it. It's almost a religion in its own right where the truth doesn't matter, only his perception full of wild explanations for proven facts.

He still wants to encourage discussion, and that's his agenda. If people get riled up about it, that's their problem, tbh these postings are better ignored rather than over than replied to.


Sorry, but you contradict yourself badly! What are you doing in this thread if, as you put it, " ...tbh these posting are better ignored rather than over [?] than [?] replied to." [??]

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 22:36

someone please point a telescope at the moon with a close up of the site to end this nonsense.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 22:39

Sorry, but you contradict yourself badly! What are you doing in this thread if, as you put it, " ...tbh these posting are better ignored rather than over [?] than [?] replied to." [??]


Sorry re-reading it it wasn't clear. I meant to say, if you get annoyed about them, perhaps it's better to ignore the posts :) I don't mind them, sometimes they are a bit frequent, but not so much lately. I just watch everyone trying to prove the obvious.