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[quote name='threetonesun' timestamp='1354295710' post='595360092']
I'd like to meet the genius who redesigned the iMac and thought putting the headphone jack and card reader on the back was a good idea.
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Here you go:

http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/jonathan-ive.html

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I think that the iMacs are great but wasn't overly impressed with the refresh. I wouldn't be surprised if they bump up the resolution of the 27" next year. It has sported the same resolution for years now....

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[quote name='.Neo' timestamp='1354296230' post='595360118']
Here you go:

[url="http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/jonathan-ive.html"]http://www.apple.com...nathan-ive.html[/url]
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I doubt it, unless he ok'd some decision to just poke some holes in the back for those ports instead of routing them somewhere useful.

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[quote name='Shadrack' timestamp='1354296475' post='595360136'] It has sported the same resolution for years now....[/quote]
Yes, so?

[quote name='threetonesun' timestamp='1354296575' post='595360148']
I doubt it, unless he ok'd some decision to just poke some holes in the back for those ports instead of routing them somewhere useful.
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Why would I want to see my external speaker set's cable sticking out of the front, side or bottom all the time? I have no idea.

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[quote name='.Neo' timestamp='1354296680' post='595360154']
Yes, so?
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Read the sentence before that. That's what I call: supporting evidence...along with Retina-everything...

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[quote name='Shadrack' timestamp='1354296839' post='595360166']
Read the sentence before that. That's what I call: supporting evidence...along with Retina-everything...
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You feel a 5120 x 2880 pixel screen is realistic, both price-wise and when it boils down to performance? I can only begin to image what would happen when hooking up a secondary screen. Unless of course Apple only does a x1,5 reducing the workspace to that of a current 21,5-inch iMac.

I'll definitely wait a rev or two before jumping on board that train. :p

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You should know that Windows will not install to and use the Fusion (ram part) disk... it will only run from the physical platter drive (I am pretty sure I saw that on ARS or Toms)...

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[quote name='.Neo' timestamp='1354296680' post='595360154']
Why would I want to see my external speaker set's cable sticking out of the front, side or bottom all the time? I have no idea.
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Do the new iMacs not have internal speakers? Do you have a good reason for putting an SD reader on the back?

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It is a gorgeous piece of hardware tho'... I would love the 27" unit. Can't even fit it in my workspace tho'. :( :(

Hmmmm.... maybe I should take over one of my kids' rooms ... mwah hah hah hahhhhhh.

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[quote name='Tuishimi' timestamp='1354297687' post='595360216']
You should know that Windows will not install to and use the Fusion (ram part) disk... it will only run from the physical platter drive (I am pretty sure I saw that on ARS or Toms)...
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This is really the only thing i've notice that'll suck. I currently have Win8 on my ssd along with ML, but I may just buy a thunderbolt ssd drive for windows, then keep the internal drive for osx.

Also reading the speakers are worse than previous years. Kinda sucks cause I was looking to get rid of my speakers I use on my pro :(

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[quote name='Tuishimi' timestamp='1354297753' post='595360220']
It is a gorgeous piece of hardware tho'... I would love the 27" unit. Can't even fit it in my workspace tho'. :( :(

Hmmmm.... [b]maybe I should take over one of my kids' rooms[/b] ... mwah hah hah hahhhhhh.
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You and me both.

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[quote name='Timan' timestamp='1354299637' post='595360324']
This is really the only thing i've notice that'll suck. I currently have Win8 on my ssd along with ML, but I may just buy a thunderbolt ssd drive for windows, then keep the internal drive for osx.

Also reading the speakers are worse than previous years. Kinda sucks cause I was looking to get rid of my speakers I use on my pro :(
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I don't believe you can run bootcamp from an external drive.

[url="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5446?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US"]But:[/url]
[quote][b]Can I add a Windows partition?[/b]
You can create one additional partition on the hard disk with Fusion Drive. You can create either a Mac OS X partition or a Windows partition. If creating a Windows partition, use Boot Camp Assistant to create it, not Disk Utility. From the [b]Go[/b] menu, choose [b]Utilities. [/b]Then, double-click Boot Camp Assistant and follow the onscreen instructions. For more information on Boot Camp see the [url="http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/"]Boot Camp support page[/url].

[b]Note[/b]: Boot Camp Assistant is not supported at this time on 3TB hard drive configurations.[/quote]

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[quote name='.Neo' timestamp='1354297001' post='595360176']
You feel a 5120 x 2880 pixel screen is realistic, both price-wise and when it boils down to performance? I can only begin to image what would happen when hooking up a secondary screen. Unless of course Apple only does a x1,5 reducing the workspace to that of a current 21,5-inch iMac.

I'll definitely wait a rev or two before jumping on board that train. :p
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Maybe not by that much, but a modest bump in resolution (I think) is over due on their 27" monitors. I like the resolution (I have one). To me, I think overall the latest iMac revision when compared to the previous one amount to:

* Thinner on the sides
* More difficult to work on yourself (although the last one wasn't really something you worked on anyway...)
* No more optical drive
* Slight bump in performance specs-wise

I was expecting at least a resolution bump given Apple's trend on that. So I will hold my breath and wait for next year on that one ;).

Edit: I have the 27" cinema display for my MBP, I don't have a 27" iMac.

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I am well informed about Macs and can tell you that it definitely isn't worth it.
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[quote name='threetonesun' timestamp='1354297740' post='595360218']Do the new iMacs not have internal speakers? Do you have a good reason for putting an SD reader on the back?[/quote]
Are you under the impression build-in speakers produce the same sound quality and volume levels as higher-end external speakers? You expect a card reader to fit in 5 mm thin edges?

[quote name='Tom' timestamp='1354300204' post='595360348']I am well informed about Macs and can tell you that it definitely isn't worth it.[/quote]
I feel exactly the same about investing any serious amount of money in a Windows 8 PC. Funny how people can have different preferences.

[quote name='Shadrack' timestamp='1354300071' post='595360344']Maybe not by that much, but a modest bump in resolution (I think) is over due on their 27" monitors. I like the resolution (I have one).[/quote]
Since you target Apple so specifically, what other 27-inch screens have a resolution different from 2560 x 1440 (depending on ratio of course)? Ignoring those

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all I can say is the software experience hasn't really changed since 2008.... if your hardware is faster then yes, things will be quicker - but it is purely an economic decision. if you require things to be a few seconds faster then throw down your money! I couldn't be happier with win7 & ubuntu myself, I cant see the benefit in the mac tax.

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FFS. This isn't a debate on whether he should change from a Mac to a Windows or Linux PC. It's a simple question around the Mac Pro and the new iMac. The original post is [b]quite specific[/b].

Jesus H.

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Yea the cost is something i dont like. In New Zealand the upgrades push the price up to 4000NZD and i cant spend that much, but for around 2500NZD, i can build me a really great PC/Hackintosh.

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How much would you be selling it for?

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[quote name='Chicane-UK' timestamp='1354355426' post='595361518']
FFS. This isn't a debate on whether he should change from a Mac to a Windows or Linux PC. It's a simple question around the Mac Pro and the new iMac. The original post is [b]quite specific[/b].

Jesus H.
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It seems that people either don't read beyond the topic title or avoid the real question at hand intentionally. Post [url="http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1122832-new-imac-worth-it/page__view__findpost__p__595360348"]#39[/url] demonstrates this brilliantly.

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Asking a question like this on Neowin is like asking a Fox News focus group if you should vote for Obama.
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[quote name='Boojiboy' timestamp='1354366525' post='595361612']
Asking a question like this on Neowin is like asking a Fox News focus group if you should vote for Obama.
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Mac forum tho... so we should be doing forum bans/warnings when people come here for useless posts/trolling. Needs to stop, or why bother posting here?
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The new iMac is fine, unless you are forced for space / price reasons to get 21.5", which is worse than 2011 version.
[list]
[*]Slower HDD
[*]Soldered RAM at Apple's Prices
[*]Most other specs too similar to before
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Going to be getting myself a 27" base model. 8Gb memory should be more than enough for my needs, only thing I would like would be more video memory for the video card. 512 is a bit on the low side considering the high resolution of the screen. Besides that it will be a great upgrade from my older 27" 2009 model

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[quote name='Timan' timestamp='1354286744' post='595359762']
Yep, went ahead and pulled the trigger, same specs. Now the fun part at selling my old machine!
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So why bother creating a thread to ask for advice when you just went ahead and bought it anyway less than a day later?

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