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#31 threetonesun

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 22:38

I don't compromise functionality for size, I'm not a hipster. Probably why I still favour a good old desktop.


Size is a part of functionality. GFL using your desktop on the train ride to work.


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Posted 29 November 2012 - 22:39

Why is it that as soon as there is any criticism for damn Microsoft products, the kneejerk reaction is to immediately compare to Apple and suggest what they're doing wrong and what's so right about the Microsoft offering. Forget about Apple. Tell us why the Microsoft offering is GOOD, not why it's better than what Apple offer.

and yet people tell us the Mac Air, which is priced higher and without a pen digitizer or the ability to run millions of apps, but yet people think that is a good deal and buy those.


I couldn't say with any conviction that the Macbook air is a 'good deal' - it's damn expensive for what it is. But it's a very nice piece of design, and a very compact laptop for those on the road. Ultimately if you want a lightweight laptop, that's their offering - take it or leave it.

But crucially the Air is a laptop - not a tablet, and therefore a 'pen digitizer' isn't an accessory that matters because you have a touchpad or can just plugin a mouse. And Microsoft fanboys keep saying that "ecosystem doesn't matter and isn't a selling point" when referring to their mobile offerings where Microsoft are struggling to compete.. but now you're telling me it DOES matter in the tablet / laptop space? I see...

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 22:39

Really? Surface Pro being basically an ultrabook (spec wise), I think Microsoft priced it very reasonably.


Ultrabooks will outperform it, have more storage capacity, and have a bigger screen. The only leg up the Pro has is a touch screen and arguably better portability. For the price of the Pro, I'd just get the i7 Zenbook.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 22:41

I don't compromise functionality for size, I'm not a hipster. Probably why I still favour a good old desktop.


Ultrabooks are merely the term for mainstream laptops now. Wouldn't your stance actually be more hipsterish?

On that note, I only have a desktop.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 23:11

Size is a part of functionality. GFL using your desktop on the train ride to work.


Or, call me old fashioned but i'd just make sure I did my work before I left. And I could easily do that work on a £200 laptop, you don't need a high spec ultra thin notebook to edit a couple of documents. Point is, ultrabooks are double the price of most ordinary high end notebooks and they certainly don't offer double the functionality.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 23:15

Looking at the comments in the MacRumors thread, it's full of "Too expensive!" "Dead on Arrival!"

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 23:16

Ouch. It would be a good price if it included the keyboard cover. So this basically starts at $1000+ with keyboard. I can see this being a tough sell over an ultrabook.


I don't. I'd take an Ultrabook any day. Or any laptop. This totally turns me against Surface Pro.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 23:37

Or, call me old fashioned but i'd just make sure I did my work before I left. And I could easily do that work on a £200 laptop, you don't need a high spec ultra thin notebook to edit a couple of documents. Point is, ultrabooks are double the price of most ordinary high end notebooks and they certainly don't offer double the functionality.


Call me old fashioned, I'd rather not sit at a desk for 8 hours.

And yes, when size = functionality, they do offer double. Give me something I can plug in when I'm at a desk, and something that is small and light when I'm on the go, and it's win win. The majority of non-ultrabook laptops out there these days are poorly built behemoths.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 23:48

Microsoft is insane with these prices. The Surface RT is overpriced and now this? Maybe they really have no intention of actually selling these things to anyone other than fanboys.

Call me old fashioned, I'd rather not sit at a desk for 8 hours.

And yes, when size = functionality, they do offer double. Give me something I can plug in when I'm at a desk, and something that is small and light when I'm on the go, and it's win win. The majority of non-ultrabook laptops out there these days are poorly built behemoths.


Get a real laptop (like the T530) and dock it when you're at the desk and take it out with you on the go. Mine is very solidly built.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 23:53

Call me old fashioned, I'd rather not sit at a desk for 8 hours.

And yes, when size = functionality, they do offer double. Give me something I can plug in when I'm at a desk, and something that is small and light when I'm on the go, and it's win win. The majority of non-ultrabook laptops out there these days are poorly built behemoths.


Lol, no they aren't. This laptop, for example weighs less than 2 kilos which unless you're an anemic child is by no meens a 'behemoth'. It could handle word processing just fine, it's portable, and costs a fraction of what an ultrabook would. And this was just one I picked completely at random

http://www.pcworld.c...056517-pdt.html

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 00:34

Lol, no they aren't. This laptop, for example weighs less than 2 kilos which unless you're an anemic child is by no meens a 'behemoth'. It could handle word processing just fine, it's portable, and costs a fraction of what an ultrabook would. And this was just one I picked completely at random

http://www.pcworld.c...056517-pdt.html


And it has a POS 1366 x 768 15'' screen like most laptops in that range.

Get a real laptop (like the T530) and dock it when you're at the desk and take it out with you on the go. Mine is very solidly built.


I have one at work, I maintain that it's a POS. Yes, I could probably drop it from the second floor and go pick it up and use it again, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about here.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:05

I have one at work, I maintain that it's a POS. Yes, I could probably drop it from the second floor and go pick it up and use it again, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about here.


My T530 is fantastic. It is also my first ThinkPad so I'm don't have the issues with the KB that seem to have polarized the TP crowd.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:21

Ouch. It would be a good price if it included the keyboard cover. So this basically starts at $1000+ with keyboard. I can see this being a tough sell over an ultrabook.


So... $899 + $100 = .... $1000+? No. $999 with keyboard. Ok, fine... $999 is pretty close to $1000 ;)

But at $999 (price including keyboard), it perfectly matches the price of the Macbook Air and also matches the specs and battery life (Surface actually has a more powerful battery), but you also get the touch screen and active pen digitizer.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:17

That's a lot to pay in money/weight/battery just to get domain join...


was thinking the same as well... in addition to getting a proper media player as well.... :(

still want one... but it would take me way longer to get it....

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:25

Or, call me old fashioned but i'd just make sure I did my work before I left. And I could easily do that work on a £200 laptop, you don't need a high spec ultra thin notebook to edit a couple of documents. Point is, ultrabooks are double the price of most ordinary high end notebooks and they certainly don't offer double the functionality.


Sounds like you have the luxury of a job that doesn't have you working after office hours.

I remember what that was like...but only barely...since the last time that happened was almost 15 years ago.

I'm often responding to e-mails and sometimes even logging into my tools from home to control some random 'fire' that sprung up in the middle of the night that has to be taken care of right then and can't wait for morning.

I've had the boss call me up at 3:30am and say hey...we see this activity going on...can you hop on right now and get this taken care of. I hop on, get it done, and go back to bed. I've also had a call while I'm on the bus on the way home and had to use my phone as a hotspot to log in and take care of something that had come up after I left the office.

Unless you're very lucky these days, it's fairly common to have a job that has you performing tasks after you've stepped out for the day.