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Finder is claiming that 45GB > 98GB


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#1 crazzy88ss

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:26

I'm trying to copy my Aperture library file from my external HDD to my laptop. There's 98 GB of free space on my laptop, but I can't copy my 45GB aperture library. It keeps saying there's not enough free space.

I've rebooted the computer.

Any ideas?

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#2 Gerowen

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:34

Is that a single file that is 45 GB? If so it may be an issue with the file system that the external is formatted in. For example, a drive formatted in FAT32 cannot have a single file larger than 4 GB, and other file systems have limitations as well.

#3 OP crazzy88ss

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:37

Both drives are OSX Extended Journaled. I'm taking a file from an OSX iMac, to the external, to an OSX Macbook. I've literally done this hundreds of times; I'm really confused why there's a problem now.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 13:34

Had the same issue a few weeks ago.

Turning off Time Machine and running Onyx's automated scripts to run Maintenance / Clear Kernel Cache / LaunchServices etc seams to have resolved the issue. Naturally I turned TM back on after.

No idea how this is related, but it did resolve the issue.

#5 OP crazzy88ss

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 19:32

I don't have time machine enabled :(

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 19:43

when was the last time you repaired permissions on the disks? that tends to help in the oddest ways sometimes

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 20:03

It might be http://reviews.cnet....g-large-drives/#!
If you have Windows installed use Macdrive in Windows to copy the file so you avoid the bug http://www.mediafour...ducts/macdrive/


you can also use Disc Falcon to find out where your space is going on your Mac http://www.macworld....iskfalcon1.html

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 19:26

1.) I repaired permissions with no changes.
2.) I found this little nugget (see photo).

So... I don't have time machine enabled... so 1.) What are these "back ups"? 2.) Where are they and how do I delete them? 3.) Why is Finder reporting different numbers from System Information?

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 19:35

I think this thread is the perfect example of why Apple products are no longer "easy" to use. I love how over half of your disk space is consumed by "Backups" and "Other" stuff... So informative.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 19:40

Yes, I agree. It's becoming so dumbed down that it's too stupid. It's been very frustrating. I'm very unhappy with OSX 10.7 and 10.8.

This still doesn't help solve my problem :(

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 20:07

Backups are Time Machine snapshots stored locally. OS X does this so recent backups are still available to you when you're on the go and don't have your external drive with you. Are you sure you didn't have Time Machine turned on at some point? Versions snapshots are part of the "backup" section too. This accounts for the difference in available space in the Finder and About This Mac, which I agree on is strange.

They should have been purged though after a week. Not sure why that didn't happen. Anyway, check this link to disable local snapshots:
http://osxdaily.com/...-mac-os-x-lion/

View PostBreakthrough, on 01 December 2012 - 19:35, said:

I think this thread is the perfect example of why Apple products are no longer "easy" to use. I love how over half of your disk space is consumed by "Backups" and "Other" stuff... So informative.
Every OS is going to have its problems, OS X is no exception. You taking this as an opportunity to rip on Apple is a bit sad really. Why not go over to the Windows section and see how many issues people are having there?

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 20:09

The backups could be the Mobile Backup area when iTunes backs up your iDevices. The back ups don't get deleted and will get larger in size. At least in my experience.

Look for the Back Ups for the Devices in iTunes and delete the old backups. iTunes -> Preferences -> Devices - or something similar. Recalling from the top of my head.

Also check this area out.

~/Library/Application Support/Mobile Sync/Backup



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Posted 01 December 2012 - 20:17

View Post.Neo, on 01 December 2012 - 20:07, said:

Every OS is going to have its problems, OS X is no exception. You taking this as an opportunity to rip on Apple is a bit sad really. Why not go over to the Windows section and see how many issues people are having there?

I didn't say any operating system was perfect, but there's clearly an intuitive and a non-intuitive way to do things. And on the machine I'm writing this reply on (Linux), if it says I have 40GB of free space on my HDD, that's how much (sans filesystem overhead) I can put on the drive.

Files are files. That's all I want taking up my disk space, not all that "Other" stuff.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 20:19

I double checked TM... it was turned on. what. the. duck. I don't use TM on this computer.

I'm guessing it was activated when I downgraded to OS 10.8. I'm so tired of these crappy OSX updates.

That being said... WHY would these backups overwrite my ability to use my HDD how I want?! As Breakthrough pointed out, I really feel Apple's slipping these days.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 20:23

There you have it. And yeah, bad Apple! There's just no way this could have been user error huh?

Here's the thing: If Time Machine allowed backups to be automatically overwritten people would go berserk over loosing their precious backups. If Time Machine doesn't, people (like you) go insane over loosing disk space.

View PostBreakthrough, on 01 December 2012 - 20:17, said:

Files are files. That's all I want taking up my disk space, not all that "Other" stuff.
"Other" are all the documents that don't fit in the other categories. Shouldn't really be hard to figure out...