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#61 briangw

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 14:04

This has been a pretty big story up here. Talk radio has said that the one female burglar laughed at him after getting shot, so he took it personally and finished her off under the chin. That in itself was one reason why he finished her off. Of course, knowing this country, if the two weren't killed they might have sued him....


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 14:06

. Of course, knowing this country, if the two weren't killed they might have sued him....


Very sad, but very true

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 14:11

From the movie, Lair Lair..

Mr. Reede. Several years ago, a friend had a burglar on her roof.
He fell through the skylight, landed on a butcher's knife, cutting his leg.
The burglar sued my friend. He sued my friend!
Because of guys like you, he won!
My friend had to pay the burglar $6,000. Is that justice?
No. I'd have got him ten.
Good-bye, Mr. Reede.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 15:47

Such a lovely photo of two scum bags. Sure he shouldn't have gone that far but they shouldn't ha ve broke in either. Probably looking for prescription drugs. When you break into someones house you risk losing your life, dont want to be potentionally shot? Don't break in. Sometimes the doors are locked for other reasons like protecing you from me. If you break in there will be a 12ga waiting on the other side..

Now as far as him pretty much executing them, thats to far, once he had them under his control he should of called the police, also i'd tell them that if they make any sudden movenents they will be shot.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 15:48

The problem with that view is that they will always be in a position to threaten you. Always. You may incapacitate them today or stop them from what they're doing today, but there's always another day for them to come back (with weapons or more people) with revenge in mind. Even if they go to prison for however many years, they will definitely be allowed out again at some point (probably quite soon after the crime), and having to spend time in prison might even make them more likely to want to enact revenge.


While I see that logic, you could also consider the opposite. Robbers got shot, they know not to rob you while you're home because you're packing. They'll just burgle you while you're away instead :p

Such a lovely photo of two scum bags. Sure he shouldn't have gone that far but they shouldn't ha ve broke in either. Probably looking for prescription drugs. When you break into someones house you risk losing your life, dont want to be potentionally shot? Don't break in. Sometimes the doors are locked for other reasons like protecing you from me. If you break in there will be a 12ga waiting on the other side..

Now as far as him pretty much executing them, thats to far, once he had them under his control he should of called the police, also i'd tell them that if they make any sudden movenents they will be shot.


Quick to jump to conclusions about their motive.. we'll just have to wait for official police reports. Other than that, I generally agree with what you've said

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 17:18

He seems like a level headed person...

Hopefully gets sentenced for a pretty long time.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 17:24

He's done society a favor... Good riddance. Hopefully other burglars will look at this and think twice about robbing somebody.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 17:52

Well, if someone decides to break into my house, and I notice they are there, I DO have a license to kill them, contrary to what you believe. He should have just kept his mouth shut.


Forensics would have determined that the girl was executed after she was no longer a threat.

I will answer it for him, YES IT DOES. YOU decide to pretty much do wtf you feel like doing to someone else, YOU should be able to take whatever punishment is handed to you, be it being tortured or cut limb from limb. Your ****ing rights ended when you decided to try to harm or STEAL something from someone else.


Not according to the LAW it doesn't.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 17:55

The kind of sick comments being made in this thread are a shining testament to why I find it impossible to trust so called "sensible" gun owners. Reality is US culture places an unhealthy obsession upon violence and retribution.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 17:56

The problem with that view is that they will always be in a position to threaten you. Always. You may incapacitate them today or stop them from what they're doing today, but there's always another day for them to come back (with weapons or more people) with revenge in mind. Even if they go to prison for however many years, they will definitely be allowed out again at some point (probably quite soon after the crime), and having to spend time in prison might even make them more likely to want to enact revenge.


This is the real world. Not a movie. Once caught and shot, these kids would have been tried as adults and put away for a very long time.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 18:04

This is the real world. Not a movie. Once caught and shot, these kids would have been tried as adults and put away for a very long time.

Exactly—this is the real world. There have been cases of criminals coming back for revenge after they served their prison sentence. They may not be put away for a long time—it depends on how tough the laws are in that place. In the UK, these people wouldn't be in prison for a long time.

He's done society a favor... Good riddance. Hopefully other burglars will look at this and think twice about robbing somebody.

As sad as I find it that people had to die and others had to lose friends and loved ones, I do completely agree with you. These criminals would have always been a threat to innocent people in society, for as long as they lived. It's the unfortunate, sad truth—innocent people in society are better off without some people (those who intentionally harm others).

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 18:06

The comments in this thread are sickening shame on you who said these kid's deserved what they got, no one deserves to be murdered specially after incapitated.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 18:07

Actually, by being violent to criminals all you're doing is sending the message that violence is an acceptable way to deal with those that we dislike.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 18:11

Home owner's response went beyond self defense, will definitely be going away for a while thanks to the "clean finishing shot."

However I'm not mourning the loss of the two maggots who invaded his home. Society is better off with them gone.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 18:19

To be fair maybe he did call the police first. If you check out online, even in bigger cities. There are 911 calls where it took the police 10+ Mins to even get there. One 911 call, a womans husband and daughter were shot and killed, it took Phoenix PD 18 MINS TO MAKE ENTRY.


One of the articles linked above your post says he left their bodies in his basement for a day before police discovered them. That doesn't help his self-defense case...



Byron Smith, 64, a retired federal employee, is charged with second-degree murder in the two deaths. Smith, whose brother said he had endured numerous break-ins in recent years, remained in the Morrison County jail Wednesday night after earlier admitting that he repeatedly shot the intruders, including final shots at close range, then left their bodies in his basement for a full day until deputies arrived to check on a neighbor's concerns that he might have killed somebody.