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Well, he's right. It does seem people have forgotten what the mouse was designed to do. It seems such a chore for people to move it sometimes.

It's like you put your hand on it, and then it becomes your finger on the screen. Crazy stuff.

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Well, he's right. It does seem people have forgotten what the mouse was designed to do. It seems such a chore for people to move it sometimes.

I'm outside the typical realm of users, but I'm one who hates using the mouse. I use a vim clone just to browse the web, for instance. :)

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Did you miss my reply? Businesses do it to hedge, especially since if they do chose to upgrade it would be after SP1 and the hedging comes free (where as buying the old version and then upgrading entails additional costs).

Colin is right though. It's pretty hard to come by a Windows 8 pc, a lot of them are all still Windows 7 machines.

So why buy a pc with Win8 on if you still have the option to buy what you need for your business?

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You know you're doing something right when you got people hating on you! :)

If you just have the pocket protector tech crowd hating on you (i.e. Apple), that's one thing. You'll keep doing fine. When you have run-of-the-mill consumers hating what you've done, then you have a problem.

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If you just have the pocket protector tech crowd hating on you (i.e. Apple), that's one thing. You'll keep doing fine. When you have run-of-the-mill consumers hating what you've done, then you have a problem.

Sorry, there are run of the mill consumers on Neowin?

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Well, he's right. It does seem people have forgotten what the mouse was designed to do. It seems such a chore for people to move it sometimes.

Not about the whole start menu thing---I've trained myself to ignore and look over those comments. He's butt hurt and being immature about the whole downgrade thing. He's obviously downgrading his clients for business purposes.

Sorry, there are run of the mill consumers on Neowin?

Yeah. Andrea Boorman (self explanatory), kevpan815 (runs OS X from external SSD and tried using Server 2012 for his main OS), that guy that paid 200 dollars for 8gb of "Apple" ram.

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Colin is right though. It's pretty hard to come by a Windows 8 pc, a lot of them are all still Windows 7 machines.

So why buy a pc with Win8 on if you still have the option to buy what you need for your business?

For the reason I mentioned twice already... Windows 8 costs the same amount as Windows 7 and it includes a free copy of Windows 7 via your downgrade rights. As a result, you can hedge your bets. If Windows 8 becomes something you want to upgrade to then you can without any additional expenses.

Add to that the fact that Windows 8 product keys are now embedded into the product's BIOS instead of stamped on the bottom and you simplify things in the future, if you end up wanting to go to Windows 8.

Having a tech wipe the machine is going to happen anyway, no matter what Windows version. As you need to ensure the work computer contains the work preloaded apps and settings...

Is no one reading my posts before replying? :|

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For the reason I mentioned twice already... Windows 8 costs the same amount as Windows 7 and it includes a free copy of Windows 7 via your downgrade rights. As a result, you can hedge your bets. If Windows 8 becomes something you want to upgrade to then you can without any additional expenses.

Add to that the fact that Windows 8 product keys are now embedded into the product's BIOS instead of stamped on the bottom and you simplify things in the future, if you end up wanting to go to Windows 8.

Having a tech wipe the machine is going to happen anyway, no matter what Windows version. As you need to ensure the work computer contains the work preloaded apps and settings...

Is no one reading my posts before replying? :|

So no matter what OS is on there the tech is going to wipe it anyway and reinstall everything?

What the F is that Kelxin complaining about. Oh I forgot, he just wants to complain about Win8 yet again, boring

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So MS would release a computer virus that would exterminate life? Yeah, that makes sense. :rolleyes:

your sarcastic side went BOOM!

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As an IT manager, I agree with #2. Last year when I built 50 brand new computers for the office, I opted to install Linux (Ubuntu) instead of Windows 7. At the same time I killed my Server 2003 R2 Active Directory Domain controller and switched to Ubuntu Server and LDAP for login. It was a time consuming transition, but honestly after completion I have never been happier. I rarely ever have to go in and fix anything. Everything simply works, and works great. And I've gone from 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 LTS without really ever having to pay a cent or do anything but install the updates from online. Its really quite genius.

Also, I use an Android tablet to manage pretty much EVERYTHING in the office. I very very rarely use an actual desktop computer at all anymore, except when I'm working on web design stuff. The only Windows machine I really use anymore is my HTPC on my TV at home, running Windows 7. I was thinking about giving Windows 8 a whirl though, as it seems like the UI might work out quite well on a TV screen.

if this company really relied on those computers for their business that you decided to install crap on, then you would be instantly fired.

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Sorry, there are run of the mill consumers on Neowin?

Oh, sorry. Didn't include this scenario: when you have both groups hating you, you've really ****ed up. ;)

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Oh, sorry. Didn't include this scenario: when you have both groups hating you, you've really ****ed up. ;)

iOS 6 seems to be doing fine though...

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The mouse and keyboard are very functional. I don't see going to a pad type environment that didn't include that aspect. Touch screens are great, but lack the inherent functionality of keyboard and mouse.

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