TheLegendOfMart Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 He will now. He used a .22 and if we followed U.K standards he still could of got his hands on a .22 and did the same thing.. The difference is our culture doesnt glorify guns so if this was in the UK he probably wouldn't have had a .22 in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuishimi Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 ^ Most of the population in the UK don't WANT to own guns. Our society is, generally, much safer without them thanks. As for your hyperbole about defending yourself from your government; it's just that. Hyperbole. If such a thing could happen, it already would have. http://www.dailymail...Africa-U-S.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7922755/England-has-worse-crime-rate-than-the-US-says-Civitas-study.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 http://www.nationmas...me-total-crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Som Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 This. God, what a complete idiot with no perspective whatsoever. Over a f**ing TV show to boot?? Unreal. i'm sure there's more to the argument,they just stuck the walking dead in their so they'd get more people reading the article... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayGlider Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 And no one mentioned that the gf looks nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Classic example of when someone needs to back down............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 surprised some of the gun lovers haven't said "he should have shot to kill..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 surprised some of the gun lovers haven't said "he should have shot to kill..." Yeah, we're all obsessed with killing and have a lust for blood :rolleyes: get a grip. The difference is our culture doesnt glorify guns so if this was in the UK he probably wouldn't have had a .22 in the first place. But people do own .22's there even shotguns, if I remember a year or so back a chap went on a killing spree with a shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Like Shadrack said: Some states require that you warn and if they don't leave (irrelevant if she/he has a key, if its YOUR property) once you have warned them, you can shoot them This is wrong on so many levels i don't even know where to begin. It makes it way too easy to kill your gf. Let's say i want to kill my gf (i don't of course). If i'm the owner of the house (which i curently am) i just have to tell my gf to leave. Of course she wont leave why would she leaves? She will say "WTF is wrong with you today?". Then i'll just shot here for not leaving my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 ^ It is considered an important right here in the US. It is considered an important right in Canada to. I don't know where comes the impression that Canadians don't own firearms and don't like them. My dad owns 5 riffles and i'll probably be the owners of them soon. We just don't carry them or load them for no reason. Few people have loaded firearms ready to be used in their house in Canada (it's illegal to have them loaded). Legally they have to be unloaded and stored in a closed cabinet requiring a key to open. If you carry them they have to be unloded and in a case. You can load them only when you are about to legally use them to hunt or fire at a practice stand. Of course it makes them harder to use if someone invade your house but you also have the time to think before using them on your gf over a Walking Dead argument ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protocol7 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Having seen a few episodes of Doomsday Preppers I'm surprised this doesn't happen more. Paranoia and easy access to weapons doesn't make for a happy outcome. Guys like this need to turn off the TV once in a while and take a walk. I'm not saying it's a gun issue. Canadians have just as many (if not more) guns but they're not afraid of their own shadows. Of course now that I've said that there'll probably be a Canadian Preppers show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 But people do own .22's there even shotguns, if I remember a year or so back a chap went on a killing spree with a shotgun. Yeah but 'joe public' doesn't have access to them, in the UK you need a valid reason to own one as well as stringent police checks and gun safes, etc.... We don't get ours as prizes or free with bank accounts, and we can't just walk into a shop and buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriz Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I wonder what the debate was about? No you fool those weren't real telephone calls!!!1! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah but 'joe public' doesn't have access to them, in the UK you need a valid reason to own one as well as stringent police checks and gun safes, etc.... We don't get ours as prizes or free with bank accounts, and we can't just walk into a shop and buy one. Oh I see you're trying to bring up michael moores bowling for columbine, to bad that scene where he went into a bank and got the rifle was staged. Don't believe me look it up. Secondly you can't just go into a store and buy one. You have to pass a background check first and then the government gives a yes or no and believe it or not there are many that get denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintyV Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Oh I see you're trying to bring up michael moores bowling for columbine, to bad that scene where he went into a bank and got the rifle was staged. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_for_Columbine#Free_gun_for_opening_a_bank_account_2 not really staged though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 http://en.wikipedia...._bank_account_2 not really staged though. Yeah it was staged, for any other person they wouldn't have gotten it on the spot, plus background checks still have to be performed, its still illegal to give guns to felons bank account or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dude looks rough for being 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintyV Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah it was staged, for any other person they wouldn't have gotten it on the spot, plus background checks still have to be performed, its still illegal to give guns to felons bank account or not. K I guess you know more than he does about the filming of it - http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/facts/bowling-columbine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Oh I see you're trying to bring up michael moores bowling for columbine, to bad that scene where he went into a bank and got the rifle was staged. Don't believe me look it up. Secondly you can't just go into a store and buy one. You have to pass a background check first and then the government gives a yes or no and believe it or not there are many that get denied. Bored of this now. The fact is in the UK you need a valid reason other than "i want one" or "home defense", they send police out to make sure the gun safe is adequately bolted to the floor/wall and hidden, even then you aren't guaranteed the licence even if you are mr squeaky clean never broke the law, no points on driving licence, not in debt, never missed a bill payment. So your "this could have happened in the UK" is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Bored of this now. The fact is in the UK you need a valid reason other than "i want one" or "home defense", they send police out to make sure the gun safe is adequately bolted to the floor/wall and hidden, even then you aren't guaranteed the licence even if you are mr squeaky clean never broke the law, no points on driving licence, not in debt, never missed a bill payment. So your "this could have happened in the UK" is nonsense. Really? It has happened.. K I guess you know more than he does about the filming of it - http://www.michaelmo...wling-columbine Of course hes going to try to refute what has been proven to be staged he wants to sell his movie and people like you believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Really? It has happened.. Rarely, this happens at least every week in the US, some idiot shoots someone over something trivial, and those are the ones that are actually reported in the press, it could be many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 But people do own .22's there even shotguns, if I remember a year or so back a chap went on a killing spree with a shotgun. Sure, things aren't perfect over here, but unlike you we usually apply the lessons learned to stop it happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Sure, things aren't perfect over here, but unlike you we usually apply the lessons learned to stop it happening again. You can't stop crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 You can when you don't let everyone have guns. Noir Angel 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 What he said. Killing sprees over here are incredibly rare because of how hard it is to obtain the kind of weapons you need to facilitate them. In America they're becoming more commonplace because you people never learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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