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#61 +warwagon

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 18:39

Well at least she ended up ok. Because other wise I was going to comment, that I hoped that once she died that he shot her in the head before she turned :laugh:

I'm sure this guy will also be restricted from being anywhere near a zombie walk!


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 18:40

I do see it from your side, according to you the UK has highest violent crime rates in europe but I don't feel the need for a gun. I think there is a time and a place for weaponry and that is stored in lock boxes at the range and only taken out if you wanted to do target practice.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 18:43

Only assaults. When it comes to rape and murder, you're still way ahead of us. The only difference between a "responsible" gun owner and a lunatic is the kill count. I have no doubt that your temption to use lethal force would have a lower threshold than mine simply because you possess the gun.

Actually you're wrong, I own a gun and I know what will happen to me if I use a gun. You think that i'd pull the gun out and use it without hesitation just because I own a gun, however that's not the case. If I pull out a gun and use it i'm in for a lot of headaches and troubles. First of all when you shoot someone regardless if you're doing it for self defense or not you're automatically treated as a murder suspect. I don't want to deal with that, secondly I have to worry about is it the right situation to pull a gun out. If I pull out my gun for any old reason i'll face jail time for brandishing a firearm and god knows what ever else, probably reckless endangerment. Its not as simple as you think it is javik.

With owning a gun comes great responsibility.

I do see it from your side, according to you the UK has highest violent crime rates in europe but I don't feel the need for a gun. I think there is a time and a place for weaponry and that is stored in lock boxes at the range and only taken out if you wanted to do target practice.

All I do is target practice. But I don't think that I should have to have it kept at a shooting range.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 19:05

Whatever.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 19:09

A responsiblity that America is ignoring given your stats on gun crime. Fact is, you can make the claim to be sensible all you want, but the reality of human nature is that we don't think rationally in heated situations. If you have a weapon available, the temptation to use lethal force will be increased. Period.

#66 KingCracker

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 19:12

A responsiblity that America is ignoring given your stats on gun crime. Fact is, you can make the claim to be sensible all you want, but the reality of human nature is that we don't think rationally in heated situations. If you have a weapon available, the temptation to use lethal force will be increased. Period.

Do you know how many times i've been ****ed off in my life? LOADS of times, not once have I ever reached for a gun or even thought about it. You can't make blanket statements like that when you don't know the individual.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 19:15

Do you know how many times i've been ****ed off in my life? LOADS of times, not once have I ever reached for a gun or even thought about it. You can't make blanket statements like that when you don't know the individual.


There' was a study which showed there was a higher risk of homicide in a home which contained a gun often against a family member.

#68 KingCracker

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 19:27

There' was a study which showed there was a higher risk of homicide in a home which contained a gun often against a family member.

I bet the study was done by an anti gun organisation too. I'm surrounded by firearms, i've got one right in front of me and one to the left of me. i've never felt compelled to pick one up over an argument or fight. Again you can't make blanket statements when you don't know the individual.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 20:07

I bet the study was done by an anti gun organisation too. I'm surrounded by firearms, i've got one right in front of me and one to the left of me. i've never felt compelled to pick one up over an argument or fight. Again you can't make blanket statements when you don't know the individual.


you may have forgotten the word "so far"... as in "i've never felt compelled to pick one up over an argument or fight so far"

I am willing to bet almost 100% of the people that legally buy a gun and have used it in a illegal manner said the EXACT same thing you just said.

Also, in your line "Again you can't make blanket statements when you don't know the individual." isn't that excatly what you are doing but in reverse when speaking of gun owners?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 20:11

I bet the study was done by an anti gun organisation too. I'm surrounded by firearms, i've got one right in front of me and one to the left of me. i've never felt compelled to pick one up over an argument or fight. Again you can't make blanket statements when you don't know the individual.
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I've no clue if the New England Journal of Medicine is anti-gun, and I'm not sure that I made a blanket statement either.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 20:25

you may have forgotten the word "so far"... as in "i've never felt compelled to pick one up over an argument or fight so far"

I am willing to bet almost 100% of the people that legally buy a gun and have used it in a illegal manner said the EXACT same thing you just said.

Also, in your line "Again you can't make blanket statements when you don't know the individual." isn't that excatly what you are doing but in reverse when speaking of gun owners?

No, you don't know me personally, you don't know how I act when i'm ****ed off. A gun doesn't make me want use it in anger just because I own one.
What illegal manner are you talking about?
I didn't make any blanket statement I just said you have to look at people as individuals.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 20:37

No, you don't know me personally, you don't know how I act when i'm ****ed off. A gun doesn't make me want use it in anger just because I own one.
What illegal manner are you talking about?
I didn't make any blanket statement I just said you have to look at people as individuals.


I am willing to bet you all my net worth that there has been a legal gun owner, just like yourself, say "i would never use my gun against someone in anger" and then, someday, snap and do that very action. You can say that you haven't and you can try to predict that you wouldn't, but there is no guarantees that you wouldn't. You are human and subject to human errors just like anyone else.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 21:19

I am willing to bet you all my net worth that there has been a legal gun owner, just like yourself, say "i would never use my gun against someone in anger" and then, someday, snap and do that very action. You can say that you haven't and you can try to predict that you wouldn't, but there is no guarantees that you wouldn't. You are human and subject to human errors just like anyone else.

Yes I can say that i'd never do that because i'm very level headed. Yes i'm human and subject to human errors but i'll never use my gun in anger. I'll put my net worth on it as well,hell I put my life on it as well. You honestly think id do something so stupid like that. I don't even drink alcohol for fear of doing something stupid that would cause me to lose my firearms. I follow the law to the fullest extent in order to keep my second amendment right and to think i'd risk it and do something so stupid is unthinkable to me.

i own other things that make me hated by the protectist as well, one other thing being a pitbull, since I own a pitbull does that mean I fight dogs? Or trained it to be aggressive. Stop trying to label me.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 21:31

****ing idiot. Some have pointed out that .22 is more lethal. YES! A 0.300 Sav would go through you at that distance, depending on the area affected it can just be a patchup at the hospital. a 0.22 is so small and slow enough that it will travel in your body. Last I heard of someone getting shot with a .22 LR, they got shot in the shoulder and the bullet ended up in their kneecap.

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In this picture a 0.22LR is the smallest bullet. the 3rd one from the right is a 0.300 British (typically used on Deer). The second one from the left is a typical handgun flatop bullet.

#75 KingCracker

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 21:34

Yeah cool.. 4th one from the right is a 223. which is a .22 in diameter. I'd use it if I had to for home defense the 223 wouldn't penetrate through the house. Would be a little loud though but if its my life on the line i'll take my hearing loss. And of course you all will take that out of context to mean i'd shoot and kill anyone....

Btw what is a flat top bullet? I've heard of flat nose ammo but not flat top. Also what round is the purple one. :rofl:



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