compl3x Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Javascript is not enabled or refresh the page to view. Click here to view the Tweet Straight from the horses mouth. None of that damn GFWL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasethebase Reporter Posted December 8, 2012 Reporter Share Posted December 8, 2012 Ah good, it's a horrid piece of software that needs to die. The only thing keeping me from installing DiRT 2 again. f0rk_b0mb 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Great news. GFWL is an abomination. In fact, ever since the release of the Xbox it seems like Microsoft has been trying to actively sabotage PC gaming. Ah good, it's a horrid piece of software that needs to die. The only thing keeping me from installing DiRT 2 again. Yeah. I'm really glad that DiRT Showdown opted to use Steamworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Good :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coresx Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Does anyone else think it's weird that Microsoft don't try harder with PC gaming ? I know they have Xbox but surely both could co-exist. Look at how succesful Steam is for example. Money to be made. It's embarassing seeing GFWL as it is today and has been for many years. Whether it's a good thing Microsoft ignore it, I'm not sure. More of the same would be disappointing. There would be a chance to rock the boat with something new but looking at Xbox, no thanks on the PC side. I just feel there is room to improve, even past Steam and maybe Microsoft is big enough to do it. Anyway, good news with no GFWL on Bioshock Infinite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Majesticmerc MVC Posted December 8, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 8, 2012 Microsoft didn't ignore PC gaming. GFWL was their attempt to capitalize on PC gaming after the Steam store caught on. Their problem was that the fruit of their labour was so tragically crap that people thought they were trying to sabotage PC gaming. Tha Bloo Monkee 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coresx Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 They tried paying for online and that went down like a lead balloon. Their attempt was crap but they never improved on it other than bug fixes. Last update was years ago. Why haven't they done anything in years ? Has the Xbox team just told them to **** off to their tiny corner in the office or has Windows just drowned them into having no say and power at all. I imagine it's a bit of both. Microsoft are trying to intergrate things, Xbox into Windows, Avatars and all. GWFL uses the same back end but they, like the Xbox team seem to get thrown about without any direction. Windows stamps on both, they can't get any say other than put some games on the marketplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxa Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 thank you...thank you...thank you. that's some great news indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPreston Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Steam and GFWL getting in the way of you and your games. How about you give me the game without all the social networking non standard ports bullcrap in the background ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spy beef Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 WTF? I will not be buying this game :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairbautt Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Isn't GfWL dead anyways? It doesn't even display the store anymore much less receive updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted December 9, 2012 Global Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2012 Isn't GfWL dead anyways? It doesn't even display the store anymore much less receive updates. They moved the PC game listing to xbox.com now. As for GfWL it's been replaced with the Xbox Live service in Windows 8 itself. There are already games you can d/l through the windows store that use it and give you achievements etc. Also games in the works that let you jump between Xbox and PC and keep playing. I don't know the specifics but I don't think a game has to be sold through the store or be a metro game to use it but I haven't read up on it. As far as MS trying to kill PC gaming, that's just silly. If anything with Vista and the new driver model they've made gaming a bit more stable than it used to be. Toss in the advances in DirectX 10 and 11 and I'd say PC gaming is looking good. Sure they don't directly feed you the games like steam (not yet anyways, we'll see where the windows store goes) but they haven't stopped working on the platform regardless of what people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Good. GWFL is friggin awful, I ended up stopping Bioshock 2 MP because of the constant disconnection issues and issues finding servers playing with them. It's a mystery to me that Bioshock 2 was sold on Steam but not integrated with Steam's multiplayer gaming features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredFrost Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Like it or not, having xbox live achievements in games actually sells extra copies, especially for older games that don't sell as well anymore Whether is helps or hurts sales on the long run, since we wont have a comparison, we'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'm more of an old school gamer, not really an achievement ######. TPreston 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp04 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I never understood why everyone hated GFWL so much. It never caused any issues for me with the games that I had that used it (Halo 2, Gears of War, can't remember what else). And they don't require gold to play multiplayer. Why do you all hate it so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Because my experience wasn't the same, I found it a massive pain in the butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp04 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Specifics please. People just say pain in the but. How? It just brings a menu up when I press the home key that lets me see achievements and do a private chat with another LIVE user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Well the GFWL client crashed whilst I was playing Bioshock 2. It hosed my configuration data and corrupted all of my save files. And even when that didn't happen I got a lot of server drops, and I just found the matchmaking system to be poor (I was constantly being dropped into completely empty servers whilst searching for online games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp04 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I see. I guess I never did a whole lot of multiplayer to experience matchmaking. Mine never crashed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Although I don't play Bioshock 2 as much now, I had no more crashes after that one. Although I'd be surprised if many people still play Bioshock 2's multiplayer, it was never that busy to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Javascript is not enabled or refresh the page to view. Click here to view the Tweet Straight from the horses mouth. None of that damn GFWL. GfWL is itself being replaced by XBLA. Molehill/not news. Still, what it comes down to is that the same folks that complained about GfWL really want LAN-based multiplayer - not online multiplayer. (I've heard the same complaint about *every* PC game with a non-LAN MP component - regardless of who provides the service.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Certainly not my complaint. I just want something that actually works like Steam and Origin's MP matching systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 Molehill/not news. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Specifics please. People just say pain in the but. How? It just brings a menu up when I press the home key that lets me see achievements and do a private chat with another LIVE user. I know on my old connection (which obviously wasn't great, but it worked) the patch downloads died on large patches and there's no resume, so that ****ed me off. And if I'd moved the folder I had to do some general ****ery to install the patch. I didn't care, otherwise. It was just there. It just seemed like they got everything working and forgot to actually make it user friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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