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#61 -T-

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 14:08

Because it's crucial for you life to not be a year(though today it's usually a month at most) behind Americans in shows.


Well that's a bit of a douchey way to respond to how someone chooses to source their entertainment. We get it you don't like people downloading tv shows or movies


#62 S7R1K3R

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 14:20

This is a huge blow for newsgroups. I hope other people can come fill the void. There is money to be made when it's done properly like nzbmatrix.

#63 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 14:39

Because it's crucial for you life to not be a year(though today it's usually a month at most) behind Americans in shows.

Where did I say it was?

A lot of shows I watch and have watched in the past have switched from channel to channel on free to air and sometimes even to pay channels, some shows were even dropped mid show without explanation. Why should I have to suffer TV channels fighting with each other to gain the rights only to drop them, why should I have to put up with a DVD only release of something months after a show finishes airing even though the show was in HD on US TV.

Most of the stuff I watch I consume by legal means such as catch up services, my subscription to Netflix etc.. the ones that aren't available I have no qualms with downloading as it airs. So stick your holier than thou response where the sun doesn't shine.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 14:42

Because it's crucial for you life to not be a year(though today it's usually a month at most) behind Americans in shows.


Hmmm... Well you know, and sometimes there's even a complete availability issue.

Hey, if anyone can find me a legal source for the tv show W.I.T.C.H by Disney in GERMAN - I need season 2 that never made it to DVD or Bluray...

It got aired ONCE or so I think and back then I wasn't paying attention to the show, now I'm hooked up by season 1, I asked Super RTL (they aired it) whether they know where to obtain it and they only replied that a DVD release is yet to be announced.

I'm pi**ed like hell and there aren't even linux iso's about this, so yeah: I dare you find me a legal copy of WITCH Season 2 in German, I'll probably pay almost any price as I'm just dying to get the show.

Now, English is no problem for me personally usually, but once you get hooked up to the synchronization voices of one season it's hard to accept anything that comes after that.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 14:43

I'm wondering when more providers will catch on the web feature of Easynews. It's pretty slick to pull up a browser and search the feeds to stuff. Comes in handy when indexing sites are closing down.

#66 HawkMan

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:06

Well that's a bit of a douchey way to respond to how someone chooses to source their entertainment. We get it you don't like people downloading tv shows or movies


Well if you choose to steal...

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:09

Well if you choose to steal...

In the mind of people like -T- it isn't stealing, it's sticking it to the evil media industry. Never mind that such an attitude is counter productive at best.

#68 HawkMan

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:11

Where did I say it was?

A lot of shows I watch and have watched in the past have switched from channel to channel on free to air and sometimes even to pay channels, some shows were even dropped mid show without explanation. Why should I have to suffer TV channels fighting with each other to gain the rights only to drop them, why should I have to put up with a DVD only release of something months after a show finishes airing even though the show was in HD on US TV.

Most of the stuff I watch I consume by legal means such as catch up services, my subscription to Netflix etc.. the ones that aren't available I have no qualms with downloading as it airs. So stick your holier than thou response where the sun doesn't shine.


So you're saying it is crucial for you then ?

The tv channels pay for the right to distribute the show, if you don't' want to pay for the channel with the rights, then wait for the DVD/BluRay/Netflix/HBO/itunes/..... and pay for you entertainment, being a few months behind the Americans won't kill you.

#69 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:26

Its not as easy as just paying for the channel with the rights, you get stuck with a 12 month contract and have to buy a bundle of channels just to watch a show which is why I watch free to air TV.

I'll 'steal' it if I choose to, they only have themselves to blame when they won't shift with the market. I usually end up buying their crap on DVD anyway, I just download it to watch it early.

If its available legally thats the route I take, if its not, meh.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:29

So you're saying it is crucial for you then ?

The tv channels pay for the right to distribute the show, if you don't' want to pay for the channel with the rights, then wait for the DVD/BluRay/Netflix/HBO/itunes/..... and pay for you entertainment, being a few months behind the Americans won't kill you.


I think the point he's making is that he consumes his media on his terms, nobody elses. Regardless of legalities. The morality of this is open to debate.

Now the big boys in the industry see it this way: Oh no pirates are ruining our business, let's make every attempt to stop them where we can. Thing is the guys using newsgroups to consume their media with solutions like sickbeard, couchpotato, plex, etc. get a far better end user experience than any of these "legal" alternatives. And the fact is people are still paying £20+ per month to use these services. It's just that money is going to usenet providers and not the industry.

Well there's something wrong here isn't there? Clearly people are willing to pay. The issue is that there are no legal options that offer such streamlined experiences as the likes of what I've mentioned above. Pay £20 per month and get 1080p bluray quality movies/tv shows and stream them from your home server to any device outside or inside your home network. Or pay for netflix/lovefilm with their poor quality and limited collections. Or pay for a movie on iTunes which is riddled with DRM and limits the devices you can actual play the the movie on.

I just think the industry should be trying harder to compete with piracy and offering more innovative thinking-outside-the-box solutions like I've mentioned above. I don't think people care who they pay their money to, if it's ultimately pain free and nicely packaged.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:31

NZBS.org does the job.

#72 HawkMan

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:34

I think the point he's making is that he consumes his media on his terms, nobody elses. Regardless of legalities. The morality of this is open to debate.


umm, no, it pretty much isn't.

It could be understandable or something, but morally, it's not up for debate.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:36

I think the point he's making is that he consumes his media on his terms, nobody elses. Regardless of legalities. The morality of this is open to debate.

Now the big boys in the industry see it this way: Oh no pirates are ruining our business, let's make every attempt to stop them where we can. Thing is the guys using newsgroups to consume their media with solutions like sickbeard, couchpotato, plex, etc. get a far better end user experience than any of these "legal" alternatives. And the fact is people are still paying £20+ per month to use these services. It's just that money is going to usenet providers and not the industry.

Well there's something wrong here isn't there? Clearly people are willing to pay. The issue is that there are no legal options that offer such streamlined experiences as the likes of what I've mentioned above. Pay £20 per month and get 1080p bluray quality movies/tv shows and stream them from your home server to any device outside or inside your home network. Or pay for netflix/lovefilm with their poor quality and limited collections. Or pay for a movie on iTunes which is riddled with DRM and limits the devices you can actual play the the movie on.

I just think the industry should be trying harder to compete with piracy and offering more innovative thinking-outside-the-box solutions like I've mentioned above.


Exactly!!! I've said this before.... I'll happily pay £20 a month to download tv/movies in 1080p :) just like I do now.

It's their own damn fault, nzbmatrix was great but it will just be replaced by something else and then that replaced by something else, these big companies need to compete rather than try and destroy!!!!!

#74 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:37

Exactly Axel, I pay for usenet, Lovefilm and Netflix. I also watch shows on iPlayer, ITVPlayer, 4od and 5Fwd. iTunes is the closest but the DRM means I can't use the content outside of iTunes which is unacceptable.

If they all got together and offered a streaming service like Hulu but with a large enough back catalogue and up to date catch up service I'd gladly take the £30+ a month I pay for all 3 and put it into such a service.

They are too busying fighting each other with their own streaming services with their own rights to shows forcing people to sign up to multiple services, its ridiculous.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 15:40

umm, no, it pretty much isn't.

It could be understandable or something, but morally, it's not up for debate.


I'd argue that it's up to debate taking into account the questionable morality of the industry. In which case: "###### for tat" may be a better way of putting it. :)