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#31 1941

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 20:41

The women got what she deserved.


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Posted 09 December 2012 - 20:43

He'd just opened the door, so he was at the side of the car, you assume she was going to make another pass and run him over?


When a police officer tells you to stop, and instead you gun the gas and drag him with your car putting his life in danger you better believe you are going to get shot. As a police officer you can't assume the criminal isn't going to hurt you and in this case she was already jeopardizing his life while trying to flee. There's simply no defending what that idiot woman did.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 20:45

When a police officer tells you to stop, and instead you gun the gas and drag him with your car putting his life in danger you better believe you are going to get shot. As a police officer you can't assume the criminal isn't going to hurt you and in this case she was already jeopardizing his life while trying to flee. There's simply no defending what that idiot woman did.


Where does it say he was dragged along with the car?

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 20:49

Where does it say he was dragged along with the car?


There are other news articles besides this one that go into more detail. It's a good idea to actually have all the facts before making a judgement.

"At that point, the deputy opened the door and commanded the driver to stop," Deputy Thomas Gilliland told the news agency. "She put it in drive, revving forward, dragging the deputy." In other articles they point out that the deputy's shoes were actually dragged off.

http://www.huffingto..._n_2258080.html

Also did these poor innocent women take their friend to the ER or even stop when she was shot? No, they kept fleeing and let her die instead.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 20:55

There are other news articles besides this one that go into more detail. It's a good idea to actually have all the facts before making a judgement.

"At that point, the deputy opened the door and commanded the driver to stop," Deputy Thomas Gilliland told the news agency. "She put it in drive, revving forward, dragging the deputy." In other articles they point out that the deputy's shoes were actually dragged off.

http://www.huffingto..._n_2258080.html

Also did these poor innocent women take their friend to the ER or even stop when she was shot? No, they kept fleeing and let her die instead.


So he didnt think to let go of the door?

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 20:57

So he didnt think to let go of the door?


Wow. You know what, nevermind. You'd come up with some idiotic excuse to defend them no matter what the criminals did.

Let go of the door...and get run over by the back wheels. Great plan. "Hey ladies, I know you just tried to kill me but that's ok. You just go on and have a nice day." /facepalm.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:12

Wow. You know what, nevermind. You'd come up with some idiotic excuse to defend them no matter what the criminals did.

Let go of the door...and get run over by the back wheels. Great plan. "Hey ladies, I know you just tried to kill me but that's ok. You just go on and have a nice day." /facepalm.


No, what I will not defend though are reckless Policemen who's incompetence results in someone being killed over petty theft. I can see he really aced the Police exam. All she wanted to do was escape, she was no danger to him. He put his own life in danger and she paid the ultimate price for his recklessness.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:15

So he didnt think to let go of the door?


If we had more people that think all criminals should just be allowed to "escape" like you the world would be worse than it is now.

Can just see you sitting in a cop car eating a donut and saying, no I'm not apprehending them, they just got into a car, i should let them escape.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:17

No, what I will not defend though are reckless Policemen who's incompetence results in someone being killed over petty theft. I can see he really aced the Police exam. All she wanted to do was escape, she was no danger to him. He put his own life in danger and she paid the ultimate price for his recklessness.


So we should let all criminals escape now?

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:18

No, what I will not defend though are reckless Policemen who's incompetence results in someone being killed over petty theft. I can see he really aced the Police exam. All she wanted to do was escape, she was no danger to him. He put his own life in danger and she paid the ultimate price for his recklessness.


Oh yes, this poor woman just wanted to escape the horrible policeman who was trying to apprehend her for committing a crime. Oh poor, poor her. My heart aches....

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:21

If we had more people that think all criminals should just be allowed to "escape" like you the world would be worse than it is now.

Can just see you sitting in a cop car eating a donut and saying, no I'm not apprehending them, they just got into a car, i should let them escape.

So we should let all criminals escape now?

Oh yes, this poor woman just wanted to escape the horrible policeman who was trying to apprehend her for committing a crime. Oh poor, poor her. My heart aches....


So we should just execute people who attempt to escape now? She only committed petty theft. All he had to do was let go of the car, radio in her car was escaping, a car would have chased her and no doubt caught her.

No deaths, and she'd have been brought to justice.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:27

So we should just execute people who attempt to escape now? She only committed petty theft. All he had to do was let go of the car, radio in her car was escaping, a car would have chased her and no doubt caught her.

No deaths, and she'd have been brought to justice.



Let me see, she hit him with a purse, didn't stop, try to take escape, didn't give a f*** about kids, didn't follow officer orders, trying to run over a police officer with a car, and YOU think that somehow she would magically stop after getting pull over. Right on!!!!

Did you ever think she could put a pedal on a floor, hit somebody else, kill the kids or run over somebody YOU know?

You ASSuming she is going to stop but so far she proven to be a b**** who will go on extreme to get away.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:28

Think about it very well. I'm sure you did break the law at least once in your life. Most people did even if they don't want to admit it.


This really has nothing to do with the topic at hand. From your previous post, you yourself are an admitted criminal... but realistically, did you do all of the following?

Stole property.
Resisted arrest.
Assaulted a Police Officer.
Attempted to Flee from a Police Officer (and eventually succeeded in doing so).
Created a situation that called for the use of Deadly Force. (Under Texas law, I highly suspect this will be considered a clean shoot).

What's more, depending on the situation, the other women could very well be looking at felony murder (they were in the progress of a crime, someone died, therefore they are at fault).

At the end of the day, it isn't about the persons potential to commit a crime, whether or not they have committed one in the past, etc. The individuals involved committed a crime, then instead of dealing with consequences continually choose to escalate the situation until someone died... the criminal in this case in the only one at fault.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:32

So we should just execute people who attempt to escape now? She only committed petty theft. All he had to do was let go of the car, radio in her car was escaping, a car would have chased her and no doubt caught her.

No deaths, and she'd have been brought to justice.


All she had to do was stop the car, surrender to law enforcement, and face the consequences of her actions.

No deaths, and she'd have been brought to justice.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 21:32

During police training they do teach you to shoot. He opened the door and got stuck and was dragged. At that point it became self defense. He was in fear for his life. He gets under the car he could die. She should have just stopped. Lets hope her friends in the car gets charged with murder. Since in some states if your an accomplice and your buddy gets killed, you get charged.