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[KingCracker]

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. - video of a fight on a Rapid bus that includes one of the people involved to use pepper spray on the other. The fight starts at the back of the Rapid bus when a man gets up and appears to spit on a woman he was sitting next to. The woman immediately jumps up and sprays him with pepper spray. As the man walks away, the two keep yelling at each other. As the man charges back at the woman, she sprays him again. Some of that spray hits a child in the face. You can see him rubbing his eyes as the fight continues in the back of the bus.
http://www.liveleak....=f64_1355020158

[+articuno1au]

Now if she had had a gun, should could have just blown his face off along with the kids.

Much better answer all around..

[FlintyV]

Wow, posting news to backup your notion about pepper spray not being a great self-defence weapon?

[z0phi3l]

FlintyV, on 10 December 2012 - 02:31, said:

Wow, posting news to backup your notion about pepper spray not being a great self-defence weapon?

Because it isn't. Now a taser would have worked very well. Pepper spray is like CS gas, after a while it just doesn't phase you, we used to have fun in the gas chamber with the newer guys that weren't used to it yet

[KingCracker]

FlintyV, on 10 December 2012 - 02:31, said:

Wow, posting news to backup your notion about pepper spray not being a great self-defence weapon?

Well you and others think that people should use pepper spray ect, sometimes it doesn't work. In this case lethal force would not have been a wise choice as the woman pretty much instigated the confrontation by running her mouth but the point still stands that non lethal force isn't always the best option to protect yourself.

z0phi3l, on 10 December 2012 - 02:34, said:

Because it isn't. Now a taser would have worked very well. Pepper spray is like CS gas, after a while it just doesn't phase you, we used to have fun in the gas chamber with the newer guys that weren't used to it yet

Sometimes taser's don't even work.

[*RedBull*]

Looks like she got what was coming to her. IMO, but then I think both should be behind bars. And if it were a White dude this would have gone down different.

[torrentthief]

pepperspray isn't supposed to stop violence it is an attempt to reduce it, you can still punch with it in your eyes. Infact you will be rather angry if someone just sprayed you in the eyes. It is better than nothing though, those rape whistles and horns won't help if you are in the middle of no-where.

[FlintyV]

KingCracker, on 10 December 2012 - 02:35, said:

Well you and others think that people should use pepper spray ect, sometimes it doesn't work. In this case lethal force would not have been a wise choice as the woman pretty much instigated the confrontation by running her mouth but the point still stands that non lethal force isn't always the best option to protect yourself.

Sometimes taser's don't even work.

Look forward to you posting news on when tasers fail then.

[KingCracker]

FlintyV, on 10 December 2012 - 02:37, said:

Look forward to you posting news on when tasers fail then.

Oh you can search for police video's of police officers tasering a suspect and it not having any effect on them.

[FlintyV]

KingCracker, on 10 December 2012 - 02:38, said:

Oh you can search for police video's of police officers tasering a suspect and it not having any effect on them.

Oh I know. I just thought it was going to be a new trend of starting news stories to backup your arguments. I just fail to see how this thread belongs in Real World News.

[LaP]

Well the man walked away from her. So it did work imo. The video looks edited. It cut right before the man charge her. How much time is cut ? Of course pepper spray wont put someone out of fight for 6 hours ... using it in a place you can't escape full of innocent people is not really bright.

BTW is the woman dead ?

[Simon-]

articuno1au, on 10 December 2012 - 02:31, said:

Now if she had had a gun, should could have just blown his face off along with the kids.

Much better answer all around..

I'm not a gun nut, but in all honestly a bullet is not likely to ricochet into the kid, it is more likely to penetrate into the attacker and potentially out the other side (just make sure nobody is behind him) depending on the type of bullet used (I know that there ones that explode inside the target).

[KingCracker]

FlintyV, on 10 December 2012 - 02:41, said:

Oh I know. I just thought it was going to be a new trend of starting news stories to backup your arguments. I just fail to see how this thread belongs in Real World News.

Oh what like you do?

Simon-, on 10 December 2012 - 02:42, said:

I'm not a gun nut, but in all honestly a bullet is not likely to ricochet into the kid, it is more likely to penetrate into the attacker and potentially out the other side (just make sure nobody is behind him) depending on the type of bullet used (I know that there ones that explode inside the target).

Hollow points. I keep them in my .40.

[FlintyV]

KingCracker, on 10 December 2012 - 02:47, said:

Oh what like you do?

Hollow points. I keep them in my .40.

Yup, news stories. Not a video I happen to find on Liveleak.

[KingCracker]

FlintyV, on 10 December 2012 - 02:48, said:

Yup, news stories. Not a video I happen to find on Liveleak.

Yep you dig for your stories to back up your views, most news stories are not nationally covered. But thanks for proving that you have an agenda. I guess i'll dig for news stories in england and post stories of people getting stabbed and beaten..