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#16 OP Steven P.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:55

These are mostly n00b complaints so not gonna say much about it, but as for vertical vs. horizontal -- a phone is held vertically while a PC has a horizontal display. This is not inconsistent, these are two different devices that are used differently.

Scrolling horizontally on a phone would require a lot more scrolling and effort than scrolling vertically. There is no good reason to make the operating systems 100% identical when they're running on different devices,

WP8 is a lot better than Windows 8, which makes sense as it's already had 3 major revisions.


Most apps require it? (horizontal scroll) :s


#17 Deviate_X

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 12:05

OK, admittedly only using it for a day on my new HTC 8X but there are obvious issues with this phone and OS that need improving in my opinion
I am coming from iOS which I've used since 2009.

The Hardware

  • The button for the camera couldn't have been put in a worse place on the handset, this sucks.
  • The rest is awesome
The OS
  • Seriously Microsoft, all the search button does is open Bing? Worst implementation of a hardware button yet, it also adds unnecessary bloat to the UI as a Search icon is needed in individual apps as well.
  • Back button doesn't always work in apps, it can back out of a current app page or out of the app completely, not consistent.
  • Network/WIFI indicator isn't always shown, you have to manually swipe down to see it. I would have preferred to have this on display all the time, including within apps.
  • No combined notifications center. This is quite annoying, it is quite new in iOS and I already miss it!
  • The keyboard can be different per app??? and sometimes the keyboard is even white! (I am using the dark profile of WP8 theme) this makes it confusing to use. I am certain there are at least 3 keyboards (one being white) with keys placed differently @ present or not on the main keyboard, and there could be 4 or maybe the keyboards vary per app?
  • Start screen isn't like Windows 8 where it can be horizontally wide, only option is vertically long instead (inconsistent again).
  • Spelling/word suggestions when typing isn't OS-wide, sometimes it's there, sometimes it isn't.
  • You can't select all/copy/cut/paste all the time in text fields universally like in iOS which is annoying if a site is having issues meaning I have to manually type my email address in each time again (I got this when trying to link linkedin with the people hub).
  • Can't set alerts per app. I don't want sound/vibrate for every Facebook notification but I do for Whatsapp/Viber for example. You can have all sound alerts (other apps) or none at all.
Can't remember others right now, may add to this later.


*Using the search button for app searches does not make sense since most apps dont have search functionaliy. You would end up with button which mostly did nothing.

*Back button world like a broswer back button, simple.

*Always showing network indicator and battery status could be made optional, but its really low value information- most of the time. It really would really just make you feel more comfortable in the short term as you are used to seeing it in old phone systems

*Notifications history is a big omission, it should be implemented

*The keyboard is customisable by the app for context. It could be confusing if different app developers choose a different keyboard for the same context (eg email).. i believe this also applies to spelling suggestions

#18 +Ely

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 12:14

Anyone loving the new feature that allows you to reply to calls with a txt message? I find this extremely helpful,specially while driving.

#19 BajiRav

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 18:04

I have some doubts about having a notification center in WP. I think with the new smaller tiles in WP8, you don't really need one. Pin whatever apps you want to see notifications on to start screen and that's pretty much your notification center? It's similar to how you don't want every app dumping every single alert in the notification center in iOS/Android. You mostly care about a few and at least I have never really felt a need for it. I get notifications from WhatsApp, twitter+facebook (me tile + group tiles), emails, phone, im/text on my start screen and that's pretty much what I need.

I found the whole WP8 OS to be half baked with steep learning curve. I hate the fact that many obvious options/indicators like network name, WiFi strength are hidden when they could have been easily exposed in the empty space. Just makes power users feel like babies who need diaper changing.

Once you put a SIM in the phone and connect to a Wifi AP - how many times do you really need to see that? seriously, give it a thought. I found it weird initially but it has never really bothered me! :/

#20 Colin McGregor

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 18:49

I found the whole WP8 OS to be half baked with steep learning curve. I hate the fact that many obvious options/indicators like network name, WiFi strength are hidden when they could have been easily exposed in the empty space. Just makes power users feel like babies who need diaper changing.


I know right, how am I supposed to sit and stare at my network indicator all day if I cant see it all the time. Its so dumb how they hide it and let you view it only when you want to.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 20:06

These are mostly n00b complaints so not gonna say much about it, but as for vertical vs. horizontal -- a phone is held vertically while a PC has a horizontal display. This is not inconsistent, these are two different devices that are used differently.

Scrolling horizontally on a phone would require a lot more scrolling and effort than scrolling vertically. There is no good reason to make the operating systems 100% identical when they're running on different devices,

WP8 is a lot better than Windows 8, which makes sense as it's already had 3 major revisions.


Apart from the first line, which is frankly rude, the rest is very true. I'd agree that it makes more sense to work with the screens orientation rather than against it.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 23:21

Once you put a SIM in the phone and connect to a Wifi AP - how many times do you really need to see that? seriously, give it a thought. I found it weird initially but it has never really bothered me! :/


I like WiFi indicator in front of me 100% of time. Period!


#23 AR556

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 18:42

1-) Hmmmm care explain exactly what you mean? I have downloaded an app called "Free Ringtones" I just 'Download' and then 'Save' ringtones that I like from there then I can use them in any option which allows me to set a specific sounds ie: a contact's specific ringtone.
2-) Press and hold the back button? also there's an option under 'Settings/System/Applications/Background tasks in there you can allow or deny specific apps from running in the background (some apps you cannot deny access though)
3-) Yeah that's just designed like that, it would be cool to have an option for that, but I really don't see great advantages of such an option.


You can set a custom ringtone, but not for txts, voicemail and email. They only let you choose from what they provide. Holding back and to see whats open is fine, but they really need to add an "X" beside each preview window to simply close the application. It's retarded to have to keep backing in IE to close it. I Also want the ability to see eveything running and force close an application thats running.

#24 DomZ

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 18:54

They actually had the search button triggering app related searches in the WP7 days, and they changed it with 7.5 I believe.

Funnily enough when I gave WP a test drive it was an initial complaint from me (the search button) but after a few weeks actually found myself using it a lot (to search bing) and found it useful.

edit:

I forgot to mention, but I am guessing the inconsistency between spell checking is probably a developer issue. If I recall in iOS you can set wether a text input field should check words, etc so I imagine its the same for WP - developers would tend to turn it off for email inputs for instance as that can be really annoying when it auto corrects non standard words

#25 Riva

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 19:23

OK, admittedly only using it for a day on my new HTC 8X but there are obvious issues with this phone and OS that need improving in my opinion
I am coming from iOS which I've used since 2009.

The Hardware

  • The button for the camera couldn't have been put in a worse place on the handset, this sucks. [Riva] Not sure where else it could be put at. Gives a nice feeling like a real camera (top left, click?)
  • The rest is awesome [Riva] Although I had my eyes on a Lumia 920, I have to admit the X8 is a very good competitor and I don't want an EE contract. I get 4G coverage on Virgin Mobile since they share networks :D
The OS
  • Seriously Microsoft, all the search button does is open Bing? Worst implementation of a hardware button yet, it also adds unnecessary bloat to the UI as a Search icon is needed in individual apps as well. [Riva] Agree. The search button is a bad idea if its not contextual anymore. Custom ROMs provide remapping - no custom ROMs for the X8 yet.
  • Back button doesn't always work in apps, it can back out of a current app page or out of the app completely, not consistent. [Riva] I am happy with that but to some extend it does expect you to count your steps in an app. Task switching needs more work as well.
  • Network/WIFI indicator isn't always shown, you have to manually swipe down to see it. I would have preferred to have this on display all the time, including within apps. [Riva] Subjective. I like the clean UI although I admit sometimes I thought the WiFi connection was active but in reality it wasn't.
  • No combined notifications center. This is quite annoying, it is quite new in iOS and I already miss it! [Riva] Live tiles?
  • The keyboard can be different per app??? and sometimes the keyboard is even white! (I am using the dark profile of WP8 theme) this makes it confusing to use. I am certain there are at least 3 keyboards (one being white) with keys placed differently @ present or not on the main keyboard, and there could be 4 or maybe the keyboards vary per app? [Riva] There is only one keyboard, its just that if the app has a white background, the keyboard will be white as well. The key layout changes based on where you are typing e.g. email field.
  • Start screen isn't like Windows 8 where it can be horizontally wide, only option is vertically long instead (inconsistent again). [Riva] I think its more natural to scroll down on a long screen than left or right?
  • Spelling/word suggestions when typing isn't OS-wide, sometimes it's there, sometimes it isn't. [Riva] Actually I was quite surprised how it can predict most of the time what is the next word I am after. (maybe it was just Merry > Christmas)
  • You can't select all/copy/cut/paste all the time in text fields universally like in iOS which is annoying if a site is having issues meaning I have to manually type my email address in each time again (I got this when trying to link linkedin with the people hub). [Riva] Yes copy paste could be more elegant. Never too late to recommend.
  • Can't set alerts per app. I don't want sound/vibrate for every Facebook notification but I do for Whatsapp/Viber for example. You can have all sound alerts (other apps) or none at all. [Riva] The apps should be smarter then allowing you to select what you want to be notified for?
Can't remember others right now, may add to this later.



#26 Enron

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 19:36

I found the whole WP8 OS to be half baked with steep learning curve. I hate the fact that many obvious options/indicators like network name, WiFi strength are hidden when they could have been easily exposed in the empty space. Just makes power users feel like babies who need diaper changing.


I got my custom Android phone reminding me of my carrier name, the brand and model of the phone, wifi strength, wifi network name, 24 hour clock, date, battery %, free memory, free space, cpu use, and the amount of US national debt, all of it exposed in the "empty space." It makes me feel like a real power user, in control of my phone.

#27 Riva

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 19:42

Most apps require it? (horizontal scroll) :s

Those are panorama style apps and they are intended to be like that :)

Yea, I think the search button opening Bing is a dumb move as well. I wouldn't have so much a problem with it if I could select the search provider. It is what it is I guess. Using the back button to close programs annoys the crap out of me with Internet explorer. Having to taptheshit out of the back button, going through multiple previous pages till it decided to close. God help you if you want to close it from Youtube. When you hold the back button and see whats running, what would be wrong with adding an "X" to the corner of each to allow you to simply close the application? Its maddening the how simple something could be and see how they decided to implement it. When the iPhone was first released, people bitched about no copy/paste. When MS released WP7, they made the exact same mistake. Stuff like that needs to be in DAY ONE or your OS isn't ready. You're not going to get ahead of the competition by following in their footsteps.

Some of my WP8 issues:

1. Can't pick a custom sound for anything other than ringtones.
2. No task manager to see whats sucking your battery dry.
3. Start screen doesn't rotate.
4. No Forward button.
5. Loading times on stuff like phone/network options.
6. Would like some options in dealing with attachments. Sent a ringtone to myself, but all WP8 would let me do was play it. No options to save or anything.

Regarding notifications, I remember reading Microsoft saying they wanted to add it, but ran out of time. I think we'll see it added although we'll probably have to buy a new phone to use it. Now that I actually have a smart phone and care, this whole carrier getting in the way of software upgrades is a real PITA.

1. Not sure what you mean
2. No app keeps running in the background in Windows Phone; they are all killed and their state is persisted. If they need to do background processing then they use Agents. You can see all the agents in system settings.
3. Subjective whether its good or bad. I like it not rotating.
4. Forward button? Then what happens in IE for example?
5. Mine load quite fast. Maybe your network takes a long time to respond to the initial queries?
6. Agreed

#28 George P

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 21:24

A notification center is already in the works but didn't make it in time for WP8. I expect to see it in the next major update along with other options to keep the more power user types happy.

#29 Josh_LosAltosHills

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:52

I'd like all complainers to go back to their previous OS. Ive see many threads saying WP8 doesnt have this, or this annoys me. Sell your WP and just go back to iOS or Android.

#30 yeoo_andy_ni

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:26

I have to say I will agree to disagree. Yes, I can see annoyances, but I guess I'm just not the avid phone users that other people are. Therefore I put up with the quirks and shortfalls.

Although one thing does grate; no custom IM/email/Facebook alerts