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#16 OP Rickkins

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:24

I kind of agree with you as far as metro.. not for desktop.


By adding Classic Shell, win8's desktop looks and works pretty much exactly like win7's does.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:25

The missus' ancient HP printer :p

Works ootb p'n'p with 7, absolutely nothing would get it working in 8, installing drivers in compatibility mode, everything I could think of, eventually had to install 7 in VMWare and print from that :laugh:

haha, how old we talkin? I'd have to guess at least Windows 2000 old. I've got an old HP Photosmart 2610 and it still works great under Windows 8

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:29

so many things wrong with this assesement

1. the data they used for windows 8 doesnt include the critical christmas shopping days

2.there are probably double the number of online users now since vista, so a percent now could be worth 2 or more then

3. windows 8 has apps now, so using netflix windows 8 app for example would not give them credit in these stats.

4.some of these sites netapplications tracks could have been popular in the past,and are now irrelevant.

nice try, but using vague,incomplete and irrelevant data to spread fud is embarassing. its like telling someone the sky is blue and they try so hard to convince you that it is in fact green.

microsoft already gave sales figures for one month. Michael dell has told everyone don't believe the stuff you read on the internet, because windows 8 is in high demand with consumers and corporations.

acer has backtracked on their earlier comments,and now said their future lies with windows 8 only.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:30

haha, how old we talkin? I'd have to guess at least Windows 2000 old. I've got an old HP Photosmart 2610 and it still works great under Windows 8


Almost but not quite, she got it with an old Win XP White Tin Tower with matching HUGE white flatbed scanner, I think celeron 600MHz CPU with 256MB RAM etc etc :laugh:

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:33

Almost but not quite, she got it with an old Win XP White Tin Tower with matching HUGE white flatbed scanner, I think celeron 600MHz CPU with 256MB RAM etc etc :laugh:

nice, you gotta admit though, going for 10/11 years without compatibility problems is pretty impressive :laugh:

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:33

Nvidia driver's are 100% stable, I've been running all flavors of them since the orig Windows 8 launch drivers. You've probably got a cooling/hardware issue or something with a game.



Metro doesn't require a touch device and works fine with a mouse/keyboard, not really sure why so many people are having issues with that....


Yeah, Metro is fine. I actually quite like it from a UI perspective.

The problem though is in the details, it's still incomplete, you still need a fall back to the regular desktop. Really what it's like is when Windows came out and you had to do some things still in DOS. Interestingly, there was quite a bit of resistance to Windows back then too.

What my biggest issue with Windows 8 and Metro is Microsoft always botches rolling out, well, everything, outside the US, and since I'm in Canada I get an inferior Windows 8 experience (or Windows Phone, or Xbox, or etc)

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:35

nice, you gotta admit though, going for 10/11 years without compatibility problems is pretty impressive :laugh:


Certainly is, I was surprised when it worked with 7 tbh :rofl:

Actually, I was surprised a printer that old still worked at all !

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:36

on a desktop, think of "metro" as just the start screen, and just a launcher.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:40

Maybe it's me, but using percentage as a benchmark isn't telling the whole picture. Windows Vista was released in January 2007 - almost 5 years ago, and Windows 7 was 3 years ago. I am actually more interested in the total number of Windows version X vs. total of PC running windows during that time. This is also how Apple uses percentages to exploit statistics.

Windows Vista / Total PC running Windows in 2007
Windows 7 / Total PC running Windows in 2010
Windows 8 / Total PC running Windows in 2013

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:45

so many things wrong with this assesement

1. the data they used for windows 8 doesnt include the critical christmas shopping days

2.there are probably double the number of online users now since vista, so a percent now could be worth 2 or more then

3. windows 8 has apps now, so using netflix windows 8 app for example would not give them credit in these stats.

4.some of these sites netapplications tracks could have been popular in the past,and are now irrelevant.

nice try, but using vague,incomplete and irrelevant data to spread fud is embarassing. its like telling someone the sky is blue and they try so hard to convince you that it is in fact green.

microsoft already gave sales figures for one month. Michael dell has told everyone don't believe the stuff you read on the internet, because windows 8 is in high demand with consumers and corporations.

acer has backtracked on their earlier comments,and now said their future lies with windows 8 only.

Yeah this article is waaay outdated.

I won't say that Windows 8 is popular with corporations. Going to have to wait until Windows 9 to make that call.
I will, however say that consumers don't care. And I don't mean that in a bad way. They don't care that it's 'Windows 8', they just care that it's Windows. They get it with a new PC. They think it's a new, shiny, cheap upgrade ($40 special). They think the tablet idea is neat and my dad, who is a complete non-techie, was asking me about the Surface today. Anyone who wants to make predictions about Windows 8's success is an advanced user, who is probably not the target audience for Windows 8 anyway.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:48

W8 being what is it, a fifth of the price of what W7 or Vista were? And it's still doing bad.
Don't blame this for not including christmas shopping.
It's not selling well because it's not selling well.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:48

Maybe Windows 8 is MS's way of building hype for Windows 9.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:50

While it may well be usable with a mouse and keyboard, it was designed for touch.


Actually it was designed for both and studies have shown it to be more accurate when using it with a mouse/keyboard - http://blogs.msdn.co...art-screen.aspx

That link is a very good read if you would like to take the time to educate yourself on the what and why's of how the design was planned.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 23:57

Personally, I hit WinKey, type what I want and get what I want.

E.g.
WinKey, type DNS, hit enter, I get a DNS console.
WinKey, type powershell ise, hit enter, I get a Powershell ISE.
WinKey, type steam, hit enter and I get my games.

It's fantastic.

Never before has Windows listened to me.

How people cannot want this? I don't know.


In other words, just like Vista and 7.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 00:18

Actually it was designed for both and studies have shown it to be more accurate when using it with a mouse/keyboard - http://blogs.msdn.co...art-screen.aspx

That link is a very good read if you would like to take the time to educate yourself on the what and why's of how the design was planned.


Yes, sure, those involved in the development will surely have the courage of their convictions, but you can't seriously offer that up as proof of anything.