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#31 Mando

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 17:07

The Google Play store! Just received my Nexus 7 tablet from them the other day - every single local retail store was sold out for christmas, but the Google Play store despatched mine within 2 days of my order with express shipping :)

did exactly the same for a Nexus 7 for my mum just before xmas, ordered it on the Saturday evening and it was at the door Monday 9am! Now that's impressive.


#32 PiNoYz

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 17:40

How do you find out what revision yours is?


If you go into the bootloader, there's a section that says "HW VERSION - rev XX"
There is also a topic on another forum where you can find out the production date and the place identification on your serial number that's found on the box

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 17:47

I hope the next Nexus device comes to Verizon, and I really hope it's not LG again. Can Google and the manufacturer get a Nexus device with a proper launch? I feel like the Galaxy Nexus's launch kinda failed (at least with Verizon), and Nexus 4 has failed due to supply/demand issues.

#34 Richteralan

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 18:51

I flashed MiNCO ROM. Has stock Android browser built in instead of Chrome.

Sadly, the crack developed while the phone was in the official Google bumper so it wasn't a surface-contact thing (and that shouldn't sit well with other owners). The phone gets quite hot in the very center while in normal use and I suspect that the glass cracking was a thermal thing but I can't pinpoint when it actually happened.

I still believe it's impact or pressure related, instead of thermal. Because with the blizzard and freezing cold weather here at Wisconsin, I got no cracks taking the phone outside and do some photosphere, then take it back indoors.

BTW I'm using Diztronic TPU case, which covers the back if that helps.

#35 Sikh

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:55

Thats why. Youre not setting the back glass directly on a change of temperature environment. It only happens when the actual phone feels the change.

For example http://www.droid-lif...h-a-glass-back/

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:11

I flashed MiNCO ROM. Has stock Android browser built in instead of Chrome.


I still believe it's impact or pressure related, instead of thermal. Because with the blizzard and freezing cold weather here at Wisconsin, I got no cracks taking the phone outside and do some photosphere, then take it back indoors.

BTW I'm using Diztronic TPU case, which covers the back if that helps.


Needs to be a change in temperature or a temperature gradient..not just being cold. I just seriously doubt it is due to impact because of how careful i've been. And if it is due to impact then it is some seriously weak glass. I can tell it is pretty damn thin as well (looking at the crack, and comparing that to my wife's old EVO 4G that has a crack through it). You can tell the thickness isn't the same as what they typically place on the front of smartphones.

I appreciate your input but three points I would like to make:
* Judging by the number of posts around the Internet on the various Nexus 4 problems, they are having some consistency issues. It is very likely that I maybe received glass that wasn't well formed, or perhaps was put under extra strain during the assembly process. There are at least 2 different assembly lines operating in China and Korea.
* I'm sorry but I'm really tired of other people telling me about their phone not having a crack, so therefore I must have done something to mine. The assumption that all things coming off of an assembly line are exactly the same is very naive. In another forum I've been told things like "I've dropped my Nexus 4 X number of times and it still looks flawless. I'm not calling you a liar, but you must have been a lot rougher on your phone than I have for that to happen." Well, I'm happy for you if that is the case. I wish I would have gotten your rock solid Nexus 4 device but Google gave me this one. Thankfully, Google acknowledges that this is a known issue and are replacing it.
* If there was any significant impact I would expect more of a web-like glass shatter. There are not signs of impact anywhere. So if it was an impact that caused it, then this is some seriously weak glass.

I stand by my original theory that it was a thermal thing. I was using my phone while taking a poo. When I'm using it, the area right above the Nexus lettering gets really warm (not so hot that I can't touch, but noticeably warmer than any other phone I've previously had...this thing is a beast hardware wise so that isn't surprising). I sat the phone against a tile floor that was no doubt a lot cooler than the Nexus 4 was. When I picked it up, that is when I noticed the crack. It could have happened before then and might have been due to some impact that I just didn't notice...idk... I find it very strange that I owned an iPhone 4 for 2.5 years and never had a problem with any cracks anywhere while the Nexus 4 developed a crack under the same care and usage pattern in less than a week.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:14

The back of mine has collected hundreds of tiny scratches :cry:

#38 OP Shadrack

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:22

Thats why. Youre not setting the back glass directly on a change of temperature environment. It only happens when the actual phone feels the change.

For example http://www.droid-lif...h-a-glass-back/


Yeah. Just because the air is cold, does not mean that the Nexus 4 will rapidly cool. Air doesn't transfer heat very quickly.

@Richteralan - If you want to donate your Nexus 4 to science (and really drive home your point that it wasn't thermal), I have a little experiment for you. Use your Nexus 4 to the point of the back being warm-to-hot and then go outside and push it up against a nice cold metal pole (on a fence or something). See what happens.

#39 Richteralan

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:29

Needs to be a change in temperature or a temperature gradient..not just being cold. I just seriously doubt it is due to impact because of how careful i've been. And if it is due to impact then it is some seriously weak glass. I can tell it is pretty damn thin as well (looking at the crack, and comparing that to my wife's old EVO 4G that has a crack through it). You can tell the thickness isn't the same as what they typically place on the front of smartphones.

I appreciate your input but three points I would like to make:
* Judging by the number of posts around the Internet on the various Nexus 4 problems, they are having some consistency issues. It is very likely that I maybe received glass that wasn't well formed, or perhaps was put under extra strain during the assembly process. There are at least 2 different assembly lines operating in China and Korea.
* I'm sorry but I'm really tired of other people telling me about their phone not having a crack, so therefore I must have done something to mine. The assumption that all things coming off of an assembly line are exactly the same is very naive. In another forum I've been told things like "I've dropped my Nexus 4 X number of times and it still looks flawless. I'm not calling you a liar, but you must have been a lot rougher on your phone than I have for that to happen." Well, I'm happy for you if that is the case. I wish I would have gotten your rock solid Nexus 4 device but Google gave me this one. Thankfully, Google acknowledges that this is a known issue and are replacing it.
* If there was any significant impact I would expect more of a web-like glass shatter. There are not signs of impact anywhere. So if it was an impact that caused it, then this is some seriously weak glass.

I stand by my original theory that it was a thermal thing. I was using my phone while taking a poo. When I'm using it, the area right above the Nexus lettering gets really warm (not so hot that I can't touch, but noticeably warmer than any other phone I've previously had...this thing is a beast hardware wise so that isn't surprising). I sat the phone against a tile floor that was no doubt a lot cooler than the Nexus 4 was. When I picked it up, that is when I noticed the crack. It could have happened before then and might have been due to some impact that I just didn't notice...idk... I find it very strange that I owned an iPhone 4 for 2.5 years and never had a problem with any cracks anywhere while the Nexus 4 developed a crack under the same care and usage pattern in less than a week.

Well, the fact is, most people reporting cracked back ACTUALLY DID something. Whether they remember it or not is another story.

I use Stability Test app and baked my phone to 45C and guess what, the back never crack. Also as I said I take the phone outdoors and back indoors, the back never crack. I also used it without any protection for a week before my pouch arrived from UK.

Regarding your IP4, did you use it with a bumper? TPU case? Naked?

The truth is, the glass back is quite solid.

http://youtu.be/nlgG33n71m0

I'm not defending N4 like some fanboys. Just stating from my personal experience.

@Richteralan - If you want to donate your Nexus 4 to science (and really drive home your point that it wasn't thermal), I have a little experiment for you. Use your Nexus 4 to the point of the back being warm-to-hot and then go outside and push it up against a nice cold metal pole (on a fence or something). See what happens.

Does that constitute normal usage? I'd love to do it but didn't you mention that it happened under normal usage? Who will do what you've described?

If you disregard normal usage, I can crack both front and back within 1 second, using a gasoline soaked string. But what point does it prove?

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:36

Well, the fact is, most people reporting cracked back ACTUALLY DID something. Whether they remember it or not is another story.

I use Stability Test app and baked my phone to 45C and guess what, the back never crack. Also as I said I take the phone outdoors and back indoors, the back never crack. I also used it without any protection for a week before my pouch arrived from UK.

Regarding your IP4, did you use it with a bumper? TPU case? Naked?

The truth is, the glass back is quite solid.

http://youtu.be/nlgG33n71m0

I'm not defending N4 like some fanboys. Just stating from my personal experience.


Does that constitute normal usage? I'd love to do it but didn't you mention that it happened under normal usage? Who will do what you've described?

If you disregard normal usage, I can crack both front and back within 1 second, using a gasoline soaked string. But what point does it prove?


If you went about and did what I described and the glass did not break then that would for sure prove your point. If it did end up breaking then that would not necessarily prove mine. You were pointing out that you live in very cold weather, and I was merely arguing that it isn't just cold weather it is a matter of heat transfer.

I respect the fact that you are just sharing your personal experience. I dislike it when people extrapolate their personal experience to represent the data on all known hardware that is out there. I apologize if any of my posts have come across as "all Nexus 4's have weak glass" or that "all Nexus 4's have design defects". Like you, I can only state from my personal experience.

I'm really happy that Google is replacing my Nexus 4. As I told them over the phone (and sincerely meant), if it had happened after a few months I would have just chalked it up to bad luck and not bothered them. Given that I had only had it for a week, sure I'm going to call them up and see what they can do for me if anything.

I really hope that the replacement is as good as your device is.

I had my ip4 naked mostly, but had a bumper on for maybe a month or so after I purchased it.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:45

And, as I previously stated, I'm still happy with the phone crack and all! I'm worried that the crack will fester, widen, and become a cut hazard... but I really don't care other than it is a new device and I like keeping my stuff looking new for as long as possible.

You can ask my wife about my ocd. I'm just trying to speculate as to why something happened and I appreciate additional input.

But believe this: I won't be placing my device on my tile floor anymore. My wallet might become a coaster...

#42 Richteralan

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 15:40

And, as I previously stated, I'm still happy with the phone crack and all! I'm worried that the crack will fester, widen, and become a cut hazard... but I really don't care other than it is a new device and I like keeping my stuff looking new for as long as possible.

You can ask my wife about my ocd. I'm just trying to speculate as to why something happened and I appreciate additional input.

But believe this: I won't be placing my device on my tile floor anymore. My wallet might become a coaster...

Whatever dude. I put my naked N4 on granite counter, too btw.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 16:07

Whatever dude. I put my naked N4 on granite counter, too btw.


I tried to smooth things over with you and I get a 'whatever dude'. You are just a jackass. Thank god there is an ignore feature on this board so I don't have to read your dribble. What did you parents do to you to make you so crass?

#44 Richteralan

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 16:29

I tried to smooth things over with you and I get a 'whatever dude'. You are just a jackass. Thank god there is an ignore feature on this board so I don't have to read your dribble. What did you parents do to you to make you so crass?

Right. How convenient. Not only you insult me, but you insult my parents, too, just because I don't agree with you?

Thank god I'm glad you can ignore me on the internet. Bet you want to do that in real life but cannot, eh?

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 16:48

I am EAGERLY awaiting this phone to come out on Sprint! I am pretty ****ed off that there hasnt even been anything announced yet. I am due up for an upgrade very soon (my Nexus S 4G is fine but I've grown tired of it) and I have no idea what to get. Actually thinking about going with the Galaxy Nexus (dont want an iPhone, no SGS3, ...etc..) I really hope they announce this phone for Sprint (in its modified form, ofc) sometime soon.



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