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#271 +Lingwo

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:56

I have a feeling Hamilton is working on his race pace. He has mentioned in interviews from China. That is where they are lacking and the cars won't have changed since China.

I'm not expecting the results to be much different. While Mercedes have pace, there car seems similar to last year, just it isn't breaking down as much.


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:01

Commentary on Sky Sports F1 said Hamilton was trying out new parts / setups - hence the apparent lack of pace.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 13:27

FP2 result:

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 16:05

looks like a rbr frontrow tomorrow, given the fact that so far ferrari always ran quite a bit lighter than redbull on friday.
for the race? i have no clue, i'd guess raikkonen who will also take the wdc lead then.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:08

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:06

Qualifying:

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:08

What happened to Button, the stream I was watching cut out about 2 mins before end, did he just abandon his lap?

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:09

What happened to Button, the stream I was watching cut out about 2 mins before end, did he just abandon his lap?

Yes, he did. He's trying to save tyres.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:11

amazing lap by rosberg, he looked very commited. imho alonso messed his lap a bit up, because the ferrari is for sure the fastest car here. massa starting with the hard tires from p4 might be looking for an amazing result tomorrow, except if ferrari decides again to screw him up and favor alonso.
vettel did a great lap as well. the redbull is maybe the 3rd best car now and looked a bit behind all weekend, but then he went out with only 1 try and beats alonso who had a much faster car today.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:28

Massa will start on P4 because of the various penalties incurred by Webber and Hamilton, and he's on the harder tyre too. So, a Mercedes, Red Bull, 2 Ferraris in the starting equation.

The Mercedes will drop back during the race ( almost a certainty). That should leave a cracking race ahead between the Red Bull of Vettel, and the Ferraris...and whoever manages to claw up there after the start ( Hamilton probably).

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 13:41

Really enjoyed that race, very eventful. Happy for Di Resta he really nailed it. Loved all the scrapping. Perez needs to cool it though all the racing they did could have compromised their tyres especially when he nearly gave Button a puncture.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 13:46

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 14:16

- vettel: in a class of his own. the car had no topspeed and was not good on its tires. i have no clue how he manages to drive arround both of these problems. seen what he did against alonso and rosberg at the start? this was decisive and very very impressive.
- raikkonen/grosjean: while their car sucks in quali, it's nearly the same pace as the ferraris in the race + better drivers. ofc. the track temperatures helped them, but they have a strong team and super reliability. if webber wont shift up a gear, they will be favorites for constructeurs championship imho.
- ferrari: what a ridiculous team they have become. some might know that since 2010 i am saying with alonso as their lead driver they will do show laps and hyped press statements but wont win anything. and wow have i been right today again. WHAT THE HELL STARTING MASSA ON THE HARD TIRES AND THEN JUST TO PIT HIM THE SAME LAPS AS THE GUYS ON THE SOFTS?! 2 tires damaged.... at least they immediately took alonso in the pit when he had a faulty drs, because otherwise he would have been black flagged (this just confirms what i said about malaysian gp and alonsos front wing)
- alonso: i did not include him in ferrari because i think he even deserves more critics. a lead driver should push the team like vettel does with redbull, where webber has become a statist again just 2 races after malaysia. but all alonso is doing is moaning to the press and missing chance after chance. the ferrari is by far the best car now. super topspeed which makes him overtaking cars even without drs today and best tire control. and still he doesnt achieves anything. on top of that: moaning and playing the crybaby again on the pitradio after sending perez off the track and getting overtaken. classless.
- hamilton/rosberg: they have shown both great drivers and what mercedes problem is. either you go for quali performance (rosberg) or for race performance. loved the fact hami fought webber at the end. thats the old hamilton back :)
- mclaren why o why did they not release perez earlier?! he had much better pace than button. they cant have it both ways. first bashing him and still holding him back when he clearly is faster. they are starting to do to him what ferrari is doing to massa since hockenheim 2010.


race was good, actually one of the better ones this year. if you compare it with older bahrain races, it really shows the new rules are working!!! watch bahrain 2005 or 2006 for example, makes you falling asleep after 3 laps... not so today!!!

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 18:10

- vettel: in a class of his own. the car had no topspeed and was not good on its tires. i have no clue how he manages to drive arround both of these problems. seen what he did against alonso and rosberg at the start? this was decisive and very very impressive.
- raikkonen/grosjean: while their car sucks in quali, it's nearly the same pace as the ferraris in the race + better drivers. ofc. the track temperatures helped them, but they have a strong team and super reliability. if webber wont shift up a gear, they will be favorites for constructeurs championship imho.
- ferrari: what a ridiculous team they have become. some might know that since 2010 i am saying with alonso as their lead driver they will do show laps and hyped press statements but wont win anything. and wow have i been right today again. WHAT THE HELL STARTING MASSA ON THE HARD TIRES AND THEN JUST TO PIT HIM THE SAME LAPS AS THE GUYS ON THE SOFTS?! 2 tires damaged.... at least they immediately took alonso in the pit when he had a faulty drs, because otherwise he would have been black flagged (this just confirms what i said about malaysian gp and alonsos front wing)
- alonso: i did not include him in ferrari because i think he even deserves more critics. a lead driver should push the team like vettel does with redbull, where webber has become a statist again just 2 races after malaysia. but all alonso is doing is moaning to the press and missing chance after chance. the ferrari is by far the best car now. super topspeed which makes him overtaking cars even without drs today and best tire control. and still he doesnt achieves anything. on top of that: moaning and playing the crybaby again on the pitradio after sending perez off the track and getting overtaken. classless.
- hamilton/rosberg: they have shown both great drivers and what mercedes problem is. either you go for quali performance (rosberg) or for race performance. loved the fact hami fought webber at the end. thats the old hamilton back :)
- mclaren why o why did they not release perez earlier?! he had much better pace than button. they cant have it both ways. first bashing him and still holding him back when he clearly is faster. they are starting to do to him what ferrari is doing to massa since hockenheim 2010.


race was good, actually one of the better ones this year. if you compare it with older bahrain races, it really shows the new rules are working!!! watch bahrain 2005 or 2006 for example, makes you falling asleep after 3 laps... not so today!!!

Would you please stop with your Ferrari/Alonso bashing in nearly every post you make in this thread?

I enjoyed today's, a good amount of overtaking. :)

Red Bull - Another great race for them in terms of car performance. Vettel had the car under him and didn't make a mistake. Made a couple of crucial moves in the opening laps and cruised to the win. Webber stuck with a penalty and suffered with tyre wear and traffic.
Lotus - Both drivers drove well and their cars had the race pace.
Ferrari - Mechanical and tyre issues hindered them this week. Alonso's DRS getting stuck open meaning he had to pit twice. Massa suffering tyre delamination AND a puncture/tyre destruction. Neither caused by driver mistakes seemingly.
Mercedes - Lacking overall race pace...seems to be linked to running a heavy/full tank of fuel, whereas very fast with <10KG during qualifying. So balance maybe? Rosberg had a hard time defending nearly all race, and Hamilton had a good duel with Webber.
Force India - Showed very good pace again like last year, but a shame Paul Di Resta couldn't make the podium, but still a good result. Massa collided with Sutil, and Sutil struggled ever since.
McLaren - Another poor race for McLaren, but a good battle between Button and Perez.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:57

This was a pretty interesting weekend.

A weekend Ferrari will want to forget in a hurry. DRS failure on one car and tyre issues on the other... I hope that Bahrain is just a temporary blip as it seems they're the only team capable of consistently challenging RBR at the moment.

McLaren: Still not quick enough in qualifying but slightly improved race pace. Also, I feel for Sergio. He doesn't race hard enough and he takes crap for it. He races hard and he takes crap for that as well. I don't think he went OTT, I thought it was a really entertaining performance from him.

Force India: Shame a podium was missed but they should be encouraged by their upturn in pace.

Red Bull: Great pace in one car, poor in the other. Hard to know if it was Mark's error or the team's but if I were him i'd want out.

Merc: Probably the standout car in quali but they need to work hard on improving their long run pace.

All in all an interesting weekend.