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Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:01
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:03
Microsoft didn't tell me ****. I tried the OS, and I like it. I see the OS for what it is: The foundation for Windows releases to come. The start of dynamic computing. Windows 8 actually saves me time.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:04
I'm still waiting for you to engane on serious thinking and start to make sense, as you're ALWAYS the only one who is lost with my arguments. Maybe you should calibrate your english comprehension? Or maybe you should stop calling other people trolls, when you have nothing else better to say than the usual defensive BS like "you're trolling". Give me a break.
You speak like those sects where people go in trance while repeating mantras. IT's funny
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:07
what arguments, in this whole thread you have not given a SINGLE actual arguments, I on the other hand have, several times. even to your posts where you go on about obviously faulty windows 8 information that you could only have gotten from listening to a windows 8 discussion on the mac rumors forum by other people who has never used windows 8.
Now for example, explain to the how the icon based charm menu for example is textual. and how right clicking a tile, a concept that has been integral to windows and any non Apple OS since last century, is confusing.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:11
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:18
You and the parachute people that go down on some threads and comments always use the same tactic: you grab on a mistake the other part makes and try to transform that in a single huge disgrace, by dismissing all other positive arguments and content that has been stated.
That makes you look like an ignorant rat. Don't be one... You live in Norway. Don't destroy the image of highly developed country you live in, with your attitude. lol
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:21
So you had no real argument to contributed. I haven't dismissed a single think you said, since you haven't given any argument to dismiss. and I haven't grabbed onto any mistakes since with no real arguments, given you haven't done any mistakes, well except for not giving any real arguments just breaking forum rules.
Also yet, another post with no arguments only attacking the person... it seems to be the only thing you ever do, not only in this thread, but in every thread on this forum. you never give real arguments, just dismiss other people's arguments as wrong and throw in some ad hominems.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:30
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:39
You know arguments like
Ubuntu is a terrible OS because it's doesn't play well with computers running any nvidia card, the performance of the accelerated GI is pretty bad, unless you tweak it to turn off vsyn, FSAA and any other filtering making it look horrible, and even with vsync on it has horrible tearing... and os on and so on...
Meanwhile your idea of argumentation is
Windows 8 is horrible. and anyone who likes it is wrong and fanboys(though you're known to throw in a few more directed ad hominems in there with it)
I welcome you back when you grow up and learn to put in the "because" with something behind it that you are willing to stand behind and follow up and defend. THAT is argumentation and discussion.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:44
Fanboys are in denial.
Then comes acceptance. But if you, fanboy, wants to stop this cycle, why don't you show your history of Microsoft fanboyism and send those WITH CRITICS to Steve Ballmer?
The problem is... you agree with what's being done. That's why you'll never be a CEO of anything other than a grocery store and that's why he must leave Microsoft if he loves the company more than his own proud.
We all want Microsoft to succeed... But denying it's huge problems, as the ones listed in Forbe's article, won't help AT ALL.
That's exactly what you and them are hoping for.
Unfortunately, your denial will survive even if MS does fail. But failing is subjective, as the company won't die... as your denial won't die either.
It's ugly and confusing and not made to be used by a mouse. That is enough of a total failure and sales are bad and will prove that even further.
Like it or not, sales are BAD for what Microsoft is used to. Also, they don't seem to have an outlook for improvement.
Regarding the mobile experience: it is also ugly and confusing. About the name: nobody can stand the name WINDOWS for another 20 years. That is also another huge problem that is often ignored by Microsoft.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:44
Almost all Windows 8 threads deteriorate because of extremist on both sides. Those who love it see nothing wrong with it and think those who don't like it are "resistant" to change and similar arguments. Those who don't like it, end up simply arguing with those who love it who attack their reasons for not liking it.
Meanwhile your idea of argumentation is
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:48
Start menu vs. Start page arguments are subjective and mostly opinion dictated primarily by personal preference and the type of work you do.
believe and not nearly as bad as its detractors would have you believe, except for search, Xbox Music App, and Xbox Video App. But that's just my opinion and preference, lol.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 23:57
So your first three posts, the first two, are nothing but ad hominem attacks against the so called fanboys, your word for anyone who doesn't hate windows 8.
the third one. here we have excellent argument that windows 8 s ugly and confusing. yet no reasoning why. when you where asked why it was confusing you gave FUD answer that are not only vague, but outright wrong.
after this we pushed for more explanations why either the desktop or the mobile is confusing, and you have not yet delivered, so the ONLY arguments you have given in this thread is, ugly and confusing.
so, I'm still waiting.
Doug Walton, Canadian academic and author, has argued that ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, and that in some instances, questions of personal conduct, character, motives, etc., are legitimate and relevant to the issue, as when it directly involves hypocrisy, or actions contradicting the subject's words.
The philosopher Charles Taylor has argued that ad hominem reasoning is essential to understanding certain moral issues, and contrasts this sort of reasoning with the apodictic reasoning of philosophical naturalism.
Olavo de Carvalho, Brazilian philosopher, has argued that ad hominem reasoning not only has rhetorical, but also logical value. As an example, he cites Karl Marx's idea that only the proletariat has an objective view of history. If that were to be taken rigorously, an ad hominem argument would effectively render Marx's general theory as incoherent: as Marx was not a proletarian, his own view of history couldn't be objective.
Posted 06 January 2013 - 00:00
Well I gave argument earlier as to why the start page is objectively not less efficient and is in fact a better, faster and more efficient launcher for anyone who uses it as a launcher, which is what it is anyway.
Posted 06 January 2013 - 00:46
but then it doesn't really try to replace the desktop, it lives beside it, and works with the desktop. the desktop is the work area, the metro start screen is the launcher and alternative for those who want to use it as such, an information dashboard.