Jump to content



Photo

Modern day Hitler?


  • Please log in to reply
107 replies to this topic

#76 hamslammer

hamslammer

    Neowinian

  • 241 posts
  • Joined: 11-April 02

Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:46

The comparision that this gentleman makes is right on the money. I'm a student of what led up to Hitler's rise to power and this comparison of then and now are startling similar. Those who don't see it have either drank the Kool-Aid or have chosen to stick their heads in the sand and do as those in Europe did during that period, look the other way and ignore it. You better wake up before it is too late my friends.


#77 1941

1941

    Banned

  • 18,175 posts
  • Joined: 17-July 06

Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:54

The comparision that this gentleman makes is right on the money. I'm a student of what led up to Hitler's rise to power and this comparison of then and now are startling similar. Those who don't see it have either drank the Kool-Aid or have chosen to stick their heads in the sand and do as those in Europe did during that period, look the other way and ignore it. You better wake up before it is too late my friends.


If the comparison ends with healthcare in Austria then maybe.

#78 bigmehdi

bigmehdi

    Neowinian

  • 1,214 posts
  • Joined: 11-February 07

Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:46

The comparison of Hitler with Obama is far stretched. However studying the history of nazis / Hitler should raise awareness regarding any suspicious decisions done by American government. If you think that America cannot evolve to a dictatorship, you are wrong.

#79 MFH

MFH

    RAII fanatic

  • 2,350 posts
  • Joined: 24-June 10

Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:51

I'm a student of what led up to Hitler's rise to power and this comparison of then and now are startling similar.

So you're telling me that the US currently looks like this:
  • Just lost a world war
  • Has to pay ridiculous amounts of war reparations
  • The streets are full of soldiers that still think that they could have won the war, weren't they stabbed in the back by communists, Jews and democrats (Dolchstoßlegende)
  • There is no believe in democracy
  • Several fanatic groups want to take control of the country by force
Somehow I doubt that anyone here really understands how and why Hitler got Reichskanzler...

#80 OP freak180

freak180

    Mr. GreatDisaster

  • 2,370 posts
  • Joined: 02-December 08
  • Location: Philadelphia, PA
  • OS: Windows 8 Pro 64-bit

Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:18



#81 mudslag

mudslag

    I live in your head

  • 8,216 posts
  • Joined: 16-September 06
  • Location: Northwest Chicago burbs

Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2534o87c-8




LOL youtuber says someone on facebook made a post about Obama, yup that's about as legit as any evidence can get. :rolleyes:

#82 +hedleigh

hedleigh

    Neowinian

  • 519 posts
  • Joined: 07-June 02
  • Location: Geelong

Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:23

LOL youtuber says someone on facebook made a post about Obama, yup that's about as legit as any evidence can get. :rolleyes:


Well at least this thread is in the right forum.

#83 OP freak180

freak180

    Mr. GreatDisaster

  • 2,370 posts
  • Joined: 02-December 08
  • Location: Philadelphia, PA
  • OS: Windows 8 Pro 64-bit

Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:38

LOL youtuber says someone on facebook made a post about Obama, yup that's about as legit as any evidence can get. :rolleyes:

wow..learn to read.

#84 Shannon

Shannon

    Neowinian

  • 868 posts
  • Joined: 19-June 03
  • Location: Australia

Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:45

Wow this guy really is pulling at strings here. Australia has had gun control regulations for over a decade and our leader of the time didn't turn out to be Hitler 2.0. What I also find completely ironic is that this guy is clearly republican, yet no mention of the Patriot Act, which was introduced by a Republican government to lock away anyone they don't like. Now that sounds like Nazi Germany. These other comparisons are so weak compared to that one that they don't even deserve to be mentioned.

Disclaimer: I don't necessarily support Obama, or even follow American politics. This guy is an idiot though.

#85 mudslag

mudslag

    I live in your head

  • 8,216 posts
  • Joined: 16-September 06
  • Location: Northwest Chicago burbs

Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:35

wow..learn to read.



Learn to backup claims, the entire basis for this is based on the word of "Dr. James Garrow" by way of an anonymous source. The thing is, this so called Dr. goes by "Dr." because he got an "honorary doctorate in theology from a school in North Carolina". An honorary doctorate is nothing more then a academic recognition granted by a university without completion of the normal requirements for that degree, he isn't a real Dr. but that sure doesn't stop him from using that title. More fitting of someone looking for credibility while not actually having any. So when this guy is quoted as saying...


I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed.


Then you need to ask, who is this source, good question lets see his reply.

So, who is the source?
Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”



So basically even the author couldn't get supporting evidence to said claim. This guy who created the video, which is based on the works of the examiner.com blog, that's right examiner.com is just a glorified blog site, just repeats this info while also not providing a shred of evidence to support this continued claim.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

#86 1941

1941

    Banned

  • 18,175 posts
  • Joined: 17-July 06

Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:13

just so you know, American's , the world is laughing at you again . When you elected Obama we thought you'd grown up, guess not .... sad really


Well then, tell your King or Queen and or PM to send back every red cent of Foreign Aid that your country has received from The USA!

#87 bguy_1986

bguy_1986

    Neowinian

  • 1,495 posts
  • Joined: 28-April 05

Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:17

You know how paranoid that sounds?



Coming to power a certain way is not illegal. I suspect if you comb the history books you will find many leaders that came to power that way. It's what they do with that power that's important.

Four years from now we'll be saying the same things about our next leader.

And for the record, I voted for Romney.

First off Obama didn't "come to power" by taking away guns, he hasn't done that at all. Second slogans are a common practice among those striving for the top position. So to say because Hitler also had a slogan and therefore that's somehow a reason to equate similarities to Obama or anyone else for that matter is out right retarded. Another similarity is they both had moms and went to school and ate food.





1840 William Henry Harrison
Tippecanoe and Tyler Too
1844 James K. Polk
54-40 or fight
1844 James K. Polk
Reannexation of Texas and reoccupation of Oregon
1844 Henry Clay
Who is James K. Polk?
1848 Zachary Taylor
For President of the People
1856 John C. Fremont
Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Speech, Free Men, and Fremont
1860 Abraham Lincoln
Vote Yourself a Farm
1864 Abraham Lincoln
Don't swap horses in the middle of the stream
1884 Grover Cleveland
Blaine, Blaine, James G. Blaine, The Continental Liar from the State of Maine
1884 James Blaine
Ma, Ma, Where’s my Pa, Gone to the White House, Ha, Ha, Ha
1888 Benjamin Harrison
Rejuvenated Republicanism
1896 William McKinley
Patriotism, Protection, and Prosperity
1896 William McKinley
Good money never made times hard
1900 William McKinley
A Full Dinner Pail
1916 Woodrow Wilson
He kept us out of war
1920 Warren G. Harding
Return to normalcy
1920 Warren G. Harding
Cox and Cocktails
1924 Calvin Coolidge
Keep cool with Coolidge
1928 Herbert Hoover
A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage
1952 Dwight Eisenhower
I Like Ike
1956 Dwight Eisenhower
Peace and Prosperity
1960 Richard Nixon
For the future
1964 Lyndon B. Johnson
The stakes are too high for you to stay at home
1964 Barry Goldwater
In your heart you know he’s right
1968 Richard Nixon
Nixon's the One
1976 Gerald Ford
He’s making us proud again
1976 Jimmy Carter
Not Just Peanuts
1976 Jimmy Carter
A Leader, For a Change
1980 Ronald Reagan
Are you better off than you were four years ago?
1984 Ronald Reagan
It’s morning again in America
1984 Walter Mondale
America Needs a Change
1988 George Bush
Kinder, Gentler Nation
1992 Bill Clinton
Don’t stop thinking about tomorrow
1992 Bill Clinton
Putting People First
1992 Ross Perot
Ross for Boss
1996 Bill Clinton
Building a bridge to the 21st century
1996 Bob Dole
The Better Man for a Better America
2000 Al Gore
Prosperity and progress
2000 Al Gore
Prosperity for America's families
2000 George W. Bush
Compassionate conservatism
2000 George W. Bush
Leave no child behind
2000 George W. Bush
Real plans for real people
2000 George W. Bush
Reformer with results
2000 Ralph Nader
Government of, by, and for the people...not the monied interests
2004 John Kerry
Let America be America Again
2004 George W. Bush
Yes, America Can!
2008 John McCain
Country First
2008 Barack Obama
Change We Can Believe In
2008 Barack Obama
Change We Need
2008 Barack Obama
Hope
2008 Barack Obama
Yes We Can!
2012 Barack Obama
Forward
2012 Mitt Romney Believe in America


Couple things... Pretty sure I said you could probably compare Hitler to about anybody and find similarities.... I never said Obama came to power illegally, or without guns. I'm pretty sure hitler came to power, and then took away guns (but like I said I'm not a history expert and I don't worry all that much about it so it isn't worth my time to look it up), which is the same Obama and Democrats want to do. The amont of slogans, and specifically the "Forward" slogan which has a lot of history seems a little odd to me but I'm not freaking out about it.

#88 Som

Som

    Neowinian

  • 821 posts
  • Joined: 14-December 06
  • Location: Ireland

Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:42

Well then, tell your King or Queen and or PM to send back every red cent of Foreign Aid that your country has received from The USA!



ahahahahahahaha , this one made me laugh ... now I could be wrong but as far as I'm aware Ireland hasn't received foreign aid from the US


here is an excerpt about those who give aid though ... Ireland being ranked an No.1 coincidently with the US at No.2

America Is the Most Generous Country in the World if You Include Private Donations to Charities.
No. Americans certainly rise to the occasion in times of crisis, as the outpouring of charitable giving to tsunami victims demonstrated. According to U.S. government figures, private donations to low-income countries through American churches, charities, foundations, nongovernmental organizations, and college scholarships was at least $6.3 billion in 2003. And such data almost certainly understate the actual amount of private aid. Some organizations do not respond to the government survey used to collect the data, and some important forms of contribution are omitted, such as volunteer time. Alternative estimates vary, with the upper-end figure (including gifts to more developed countries such as Israel and Russia) at $17.1 billion for 2000. By this estimation, private charitable donations per American total $58 per yearor about 0.16 percent of U.S. incomeranking the United States second among major donors in private giving (the first is Ireland at 0.22 percent).


(from here ... http://www.foreignpo..._us_foreign_aid)

Here is another article about US foreign aid and how they are the worst for expecting it back...

[Americans] are regularly told by politicians and the media, that America is the world's most generous nation. This is one of the most conventional pieces of 'knowledgeable ignorance'. According to the OECD, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, the US gave between $6 and $15 billion in foreign aid in the period between 1995 and 1999. In absolute terms, Japan gives more than the US, between $9 and $15 billion in the same period. But the absolute figures are less significant than the proportion of gross domestic product (GDP, or national wealth) that a country devotes to foreign aid. On that league table, the US ranks twenty-second of the 22 most developed nations. As former President Jimmy Carter commented: 'We are the stingiest nation of all'. Denmark is top of the table, giving 1.01% of GDP, while the US manages just 0.1%. The United Nations has long established the target of 0.7% GDP for development assistance, although only four countries actually achieve this: Denmark, 1.01%; Norway, 0.91%; the Netherlands, 0.79%; Sweden, 0.7%. Apart from being the least generous nation, the US is highly selective in who receives its aid. Over 50% of its aid budget is spent on middle-income countries in the Middle East, with Israel being the recipient of the largest single share.”

"Why Do People Hate America?" by Ziauddin Sardar and Merryl Wyn Davies (2002)

Not only that, but according to one source cited by Sarder & Davies, 80% of that aid itself actually goes to American companies in those foreign countries.


and

“ The most generous countries are also the ones that do not tend to tie aid to their own products and services. The stingiest countries also, almost spitefully and nastily, force countries to buy their own services and products with the aid they give; which reduces free trade and commerce and harms the country's economy, as well as being simply selfish and conceited. Thankfully, many countries do not tie their aid. Countries that tie less than 10% of aid include Ireland, Norway and the UK, then Belgium, Finland, Switzerland and Sweden. The USA is the worst, and ties nearly 90% of its aid to developing countries. Italy is the second worst with 70%. The two worst countries for this obnoxious practice in aid-giving are also the two countries out of the most developed countries, who give least generously!

(from here ... http://www.vexen.co....oreign_aid.html)





and another article about International response to Hurricane Katrina


Republic of Ireland: Offered to send 30 members of the Irish Defence Forces. The Irish army would have supplied thousands of ready meals, tents, blankets, water purification services and medical aid, including first aid kits, crutches and wheelchairs. The group would have included about ten experts in stress debriefing. Six of the troops would have operated two water purification plants. The Irish Government also announced it is to provide initial funding of EUR 1.2 million for the victims.


(from here ... http://en.wikipedia....rricane_Katrina)


I know it's off topic but I just thought that comment was very funny.... Oh and it's Taoiseach (not King, Queen or PM) :p

#89 1941

1941

    Banned

  • 18,175 posts
  • Joined: 17-July 06

Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:49

I could and do have a comment but it would be way off topic. So you just go on laughing. :)

#90 Som

Som

    Neowinian

  • 821 posts
  • Joined: 14-December 06
  • Location: Ireland

Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:54

I could and do have a comment but it would be way off topic. So you just go on laughing. :)


Mmmkay :D