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I figure a gun ban is a long term solution. There are too many cheap guns to be had on the market now for any ban to do any good. It's gonna take years to clean up things.

[Hussam Al-tayeb]

necroxd, on 09 January 2013 - 19:06, said:

By your quote I am an idiot then since I carry.

Well yes. as a human being, I should have the right to not get shot by another civilian. But since freedom and human rights mean nothing anymore, they let anyone carry a gun.

[HawkMan]

SupportGeek, on 10 January 2013 - 22:26, said:

the one(s?) the missed had just as much chance of being the first as it was the last.
He had the chance to run before breaking into her home, in fact anytime up to and including the time she was firing he had that chance to flee.

Who are you to tell anyone what they NEED for defense? Ever been trained for it? Ever even handled a firearm?

I see you also don't understand circular escalation, and that this also work the other way, a downward spiral. gun ban means less guns in circulation and more guns take out of circulation, and every time cops arrest a criminal or someone carrying a gun, there's yet another gun less. eventually, there's very few guns left and peopel don't need guns for protection.

unlike now with circular escalation where guns in homes means crooks bring more and bigger guns, which leads to bigger home defense guns, which leads to gangs with more big guns and bigger chance of killings and rapes and....

either way, that crook ran away after she shot, in all likelihood it wouldn't even have mattered if she didn't hit him at all, r didn't fire the gun, he ran because she had a gun and was ready to shoot him, in fact she was shooting him, he wasn't staying to see how many rounds she fired. he ran. it's not a hard math problem. Had she had training she would have fired max two shots and aimed for center of mass. even better she wouldn't have fired at all, just pointed and told him to get out, and then fired if he didn't react. she had the upper hand anyway, she had the gun out and pointing at him, even had he had a gun, she would have fired first without immediately letting loose.

[dead.cell]

Hussam Al-tayeb, on 10 January 2013 - 23:46, said:

Well yes. as a human being, I should have the right to not get shot by another civilian. But since freedom and human rights mean nothing anymore, they let anyone carry a gun.

What a load of nonsense. Might as well ban pocket knives, as I might make the choice to determine your opinion is so awful that it's worth stabbing you over.

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dead.cell, on 11 January 2013 - 21:08, said:

What a load of nonsense. Might as well ban pocket knives, as I might make the choice to determine your opinion is so awful that it's worth stabbing you over.

Ban rocks too i suppose since someone could smash someone's head in? Because thats the same in your mind as walking into a class room of children and taking everyone of them out in less than a few minutes with a mass killing machine.

yeah that makes sense.

just because you can kill someone with something doesn't mean we need to allow killing machines for the hell of it. It's not the same thing.
This is why you guys are losing your pretend argument. Think more next time.

[necroxd]

dead.cell, on 11 January 2013 - 21:08, said:

What a load of nonsense. Might as well ban pocket knives, as I might make the choice to determine your opinion is so awful that it's worth stabbing you over.

I carry a knife as well.

muggerfugger, on 11 January 2013 - 21:11, said:

Ban rocks too i suppose since someone could smash someone's head in? Because thats the same in your mind as walking into a class room of children and taking everyone of them out in less than a few minutes with a mass killing machine.

yeah that makes sense.

just because you can kill someone with something doesn't mean we need to allow killing machines for the hell of it. It's not the same thing.
This is why you guys are losing your pretend argument. Think more next time.

Ban ice cream and candies they cause obesity and it is the leading cause of death in the US.

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necroxd, on 11 January 2013 - 21:18, said:

I carry a knife as well.



Ban ice cream and candies they cause obesity and it is the leading cause of death in the US.

Most people carry knives as a tool.

People eating them selves to death is totally different as well since they are doing it to themselves.

[dead.cell]

muggerfugger, on 11 January 2013 - 21:11, said:

Ban rocks too i suppose since someone could smash someone's head in? Because thats the same in your mind as walking into a class room of children and taking everyone of them out in less than a few minutes with a mass killing machine.

yeah that makes sense.

This is why you guys are losing your pretend argument. Think more next time.

A lunatic is still gonna find a way to kill people, whether it's making homemade explosives, utilizing vehicles, arson, or what have you. If someone wants you dead, there are many many outlets to which are available to them. A molotov cocktail is not a hard device to make.

We're not losing any argument either. The people will speak up, they will decide. If they want more gun control, then that's what will go down. However, this arrogance that you're somehow better than someone just because you disagree with their beliefs is atrocious. There are pros and cons to each argument. I laugh at the thought of some saying we don't have any democracy whatsoever, when our laws differ from one city/state to the next, based upon what we the people want. I'm not sure how it can get any better than that...

Also, I love how one guy said to another member how he didn't know what it's like in the UK and so forth. Does one not hit a wall of realization when saying that? Because it'd seem to me that for someone to say, "Look bud, you don't live here, you don't know what you're talking about," only to turn around and lecture the US on how things should be when they themselves don't live here... I dunno. That just blows my mind.

The only argument anyone's "winning" is the argument of douchebaggery, where people insult each other indirectly. (e.g. gun owners are idiots) I failed to see how any of this behavior is helpful, which is why I teased him regarding his "insightful" opinion. Fact of the matter is: gun owners/carriers are not idiots. That's just a blatant lie, and only serves to make himself feel better regarding his opinion, which is why I called it nonsense.

[necroxd]

Have you seen the ****ty parents in the world. So many kids are rolling lard in this country. They are hurting the children. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!